Speaker Mike Johnson said that the House will use Elon Musk's dubious claims of fraud to pass spending cuts, which makes DOGE a backdoor to cutting programs.
Can’t Trump and Vance be arrested for treason for trying to overthrow the government of the United States of America?! So many servicemen and women have died for our freedom.
No. Trump has immunity thanks to the conservative Supreme Court majority, and they control federal law enforcement. There is no one to charge them with anything. Even if they could be charged, Trump could use his power over the DOJ to drop the charges. The only way to stop them is to start winning elections in 2026, and elections are state run, not federal so Trump can't stop them.----Jason
I believe the way things r going now either republicans switch sides to vote democrats or they won't vote. Whereas all democrats will vote and they'll lose over and over again. The American people r not stupid and hate what's happening and it's all republicans fault
I suppose that’s true, or it will be held up in courts for years deciding what was covered under his immunity. But we aren’t going to make it to 2026 at the pace they’re going in conjunction with Project 2025.
Can’t they at least stop Musk from going into agencies and gutting them and firing everyone since it’s supposedly illegal? Although he’s already done a lot of damage.
Then Vance takes over. They need to be locked up , that won’t happen because they own many! It is disgusting that he & the other sadist leeches occupy our country
TRUMP, MUSK, VANCE, JOHNSON, VOUGHT, ROBERTSON...who else? That's only 6 people. I'm sure one fairly small clandestine operation, could land all of these pricks in Guantanamo, in one night. I don't give a shit what happens to them once they arrive at Guantanamo.
They're all too chicken. He has threatened them with supporting money wise to anyone running against them. He's dumping money into state elections also
It's hard though it's it. I keep debating moving to Germany where I have dual or Canada where I could drive to or stay and fight as long as possible. I'm 73 so some of my fight has left me. We had to do this in the 60s and 70s ! So frustrating to be here again !
We have done that and still he is in the white house. If musk can manipulate & get into our federal buildings and data , he certainly was able to interfere with the election. I’m tired of the bs words. We need action now. Seems like AOC , Jasmine & a FEW dems have stood up unafraid. Where are the rest?
Wrong. He does not have blanket immunity. We have to sue them, drag the cases through the courts and eventually they wind up in the Supreme Court, where THEY decide if he has immunity as an “official act.”
People need to stop saying this.
If SCOTUS decides he DOES have immunity on an act that was formerly deemed unconstitutional, WE REVOLT.
What did Trump know about the Muskrats part in messing with computer data to give Pennsylvania to Trump that Mike the Weasel also knew about? The Weasel plotted project 2025 too, didn’t he? I believe the dead fish they think they buried are beginning to reek way past being ignored anymore. Why the bloody hell are the Democrats not on this like white on rice?!?!?!
Elections are coming on April 1st in Florida. Even if you can’t vote there, send donations to Gay Valimont and Josh Weil. I live in Minnesota, but gladly gave to these brave democrats.
Actually Trump can order what he likes with Impunity. However anyone not realizing an order is illegal and complying or implementing it is NOT IMMUNE. They need to be told it’s illegal confirmed by legal advice and ask for a legal version of the order.
Musk and Trump are using cutting fraud, waste and abuse as a RUSE to dismantle our government and democracy in accordance with Project 2025. Trump lied that he didn’t know anything about it. They want to replace our freedom with a white supremacist, autocracy and extreme oppressive Christian ideology (and I say Christian lightly because they are anything but).
Yes I use the term Christian lightly because they are anything but. They want to sound good so people don’t know how awful and evil they are, thus the name they’ve given themselves to justify their beliefs and actions.
Right, 248 years of research, voting in people we trust in Congress, giving our most private information to the IRS, insurance companies, any govt group we participate in and this m’fn MoscowMike, Republican Congressional Cretins and Muskmelon Gutter Rat and his teen’y muskrats, using ‘key words on SEARCH’ to gut our F’N Democracy-FFFS
They have all sorts of lists to work down now for the Nazi intimidation and totalitarian abuse that is coming. MAGA morons you you did this. You think you are free? Nah! Eventually, when they are confident they don't need you anymore, they will get around to abusing you, too. You killed us you fools!
So exactly how do the elderly, poor, disabled “get ready” for losses of Medicare and Social Security ( services they have paid into over their working lives) and Medicaid.
I have stopped squirreling away what little I could. Passage of The Social Security Act - Thank You, Democrats, and one Republican who helped author the bill - was all to placate us. We will probably never see it come to fruition. I knew something was up when FELON came out and said he supported the SSFA. I pray I am wrong, can keep my house as it is just about all I can leave my daughter when I am gone. Things like traveling, updating my house (even window coverings), and landscaping are absolutely tabled.
We have to fight for our Social Security. We put our own $ into it. If we win that battle we go to the next one. Judges will have choices to make- tyranny or the United States of America.
Unfortunately I agree with you. At peace knowing my daughter has started her family, and joyful in meeting my perfect grandson, but very worried about their future, so I FIGHT!
We can't, Maureen. I'm in the same boat as you. I can't even pay my bills AND buy groceries anymore. It's one or the other. I don't even have a car. I have no money for anything else. I want to give my house to my son when I die, but who knows if I'll even have it still. I guess when you have nothing left to lose, engaging in combat doesn't seem so bad. I want to take a couple of them with me when I go!
This is a friggin' heist. Now that he's admitted it, the Federal Judges, Dems and The Resistance has more ammo! Enjoy all those lawsuits and rulings against you, ya big idiot!
It is all in Project 2025 but that was only Part One. Part Two is not published nor will it ever be. This is not news. It hit the media 6 months ago. What surprises me is Congress had no game plan. None of this is unexpected. None of it. So really what's the use of commenting on any of it?
Follow the money: in 2018, Mike Johnson’s net worth was -$32k … Dec ‘24 his estimated net worth is $6million! Marco Rubio had NEGATIVE $1+mil… now has POSITIVE $1+mil! Look at the net worth (while you still can) of all the Republicans in Congress and you’ll see why they’re voting the way they are.
That was what I thought as well! I was angry watching CBS! They coined the meeting as “both sides YELLING at each other”! Excuse me? What’s that now? Uh, no! Zelensky was trying to speak, he was being berated on National broadcast! He held a dignified, and respectful conversation (or tried to). When my back is up against the wall, as his was, I come out fighting, often to my detriment, and often regret my short fuse. Zelensky was the only adult in the room and somehow remained composed. Just plain sickening!
I gave almost the exact answer as you, on a post from yesterday. JD Vance needs to shut up and go away. He's a pie-face. He's made alot of enemies already. Protestors protested yesterday at a ski resort Vance and his family were going to be staying at. Vance had to turn around and go someplace else!
Since Republicans won’t help our Democrat senators need to ramp up to save Medicaid, Medicare and Social Security. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. No one 150 years old is getting social security. It didn’t start until 1935. Come on! Who would put birth dates in the 1800’s!!! They’re just saying that so they can lay the groundwork for shutting them down.
People rely on those programs to live check to check but in reality they don’t care if we live or not. And they don’t think we’ll have elections again so they aren’t worried about pleasing their constituents.
Agree. Slight correction. There were plenty of people who had birth dates in the 1800s in 1935. High end 100yr-old - 1835, lowest at 65 would be born in 1870.
I see what you mean. But erroneous birthdates would have had to be used for many years or people born in say 1875 were still being paid to this day to make it as bad as what Musk is claiming. Yet he provided still no names.
From personal experience, decades ago when I first got a computer that used floppy disks that could only hold 150K data, I used a program that defaulted dates to nonexistent numbers. And it drove me nuts, so I ended up resorting to paper and pencils. Another personal experience: when I first began working in 1973, I got to be really good at arithmetic as there was no such thing as a calculator for each employee. Even in the 90s, I had a branch manager tell me that I didn't need a computer to do my job.
In other words, Skum is a computer illiterate as are those 20-yr-olds. And in his world, it is unthinkable that many government systems are OLD because Congress refused to allow the agencies to get new technology.
Mike Johnson first says that Trump trusts Putin in stopping the war deal. Then when asked what he thinks of Putin, he says he is a communist that cannot be trusted. Which is it?
That’s OK. As long as our children and their children have what we had. A song by Mike and The Mechanics, Silent Running, is where we are. “Teach the children quietly for some day sons and daughters will rise up and fight, while we stood still.”
We are trying now, but where was I when this was coming, the signs were there in early 2000’s. The hatred of Obama, birtherism, accusations of Muslim, not Christian (neither is a bad thing), but FELON accused him of horrible things: lying, cheating - all the things that FELON did/does!
I do try, but sometimes it’s frustrating because they seem to be under a delusion so no matter what you say or do, they can’t really comprehend or absorb it. It’s like their lost or under a spell or something. Very frustrating….
If there had been such a person as Jesus Christ, that person would be horrified at the mess they have made of his teachings. These people are liars, traitors, and charlatans. (Yes, there's redundancy in that sentence. I used it for emphasis.)
He is a traitor and coward that needs to be removed immediately and musk is the one sucking our tax money away!! This is insane behavior and they must not succeed
Every time a baby is born in Louisiana, where Republican House Speaker Mike Johnson handily won reelection last year, there’s more than a 60% chance taxpayers will finance the birth through Medicaid.
In Republican Rep. David Valadao ’s central California district, 6 out of 10 people use Medicaid to pay for doctor visits and emergency room trips.
And one-third of the population is covered by Medicaid in GOP Sen. Lisa Murkowski’s Alaska, one of the nation’s costliest corners for health care.
Understand this mother fucker ;; Here is the deal: You fuck with Medicaid,, not only is America going to shit in your oatmeal and piss in your orange juice,,, you will be looking over your shoulder thr rest of your life, and you will not be reelected to clean urinal cakes in county jail
Can’t Trump and Vance be arrested for treason for trying to overthrow the government of the United States of America?! So many servicemen and women have died for our freedom.
No. Trump has immunity thanks to the conservative Supreme Court majority, and they control federal law enforcement. There is no one to charge them with anything. Even if they could be charged, Trump could use his power over the DOJ to drop the charges. The only way to stop them is to start winning elections in 2026, and elections are state run, not federal so Trump can't stop them.----Jason
Do you really think would make it to 2026 elections and that they could be fair?
I believe the way things r going now either republicans switch sides to vote democrats or they won't vote. Whereas all democrats will vote and they'll lose over and over again. The American people r not stupid and hate what's happening and it's all republicans fault
No
I have hope that they will be fair, but I would not bet my life on it.
Fair? They're not being fair now, why would they be fair in the future?
We won't have a country by 2026, and Trump will be so embedded, it will take a chisel and hammer to remove his fat ass. Time is not on our side.
I suppose that’s true, or it will be held up in courts for years deciding what was covered under his immunity. But we aren’t going to make it to 2026 at the pace they’re going in conjunction with Project 2025.
Can’t they at least stop Musk from going into agencies and gutting them and firing everyone since it’s supposedly illegal? Although he’s already done a lot of damage.
I hoping the fatass dies soon.
Then Vance takes over. They need to be locked up , that won’t happen because they own many! It is disgusting that he & the other sadist leeches occupy our country
TRUMP, MUSK, VANCE, JOHNSON, VOUGHT, ROBERTSON...who else? That's only 6 people. I'm sure one fairly small clandestine operation, could land all of these pricks in Guantanamo, in one night. I don't give a shit what happens to them once they arrive at Guantanamo.
So far, lawsuits challenging DOGE cuts have been fairly successful. Unfortunately, not everybody has the money to go to court to challenge DOGE.
No one but rich politicians can afford that, taking them to court.
They're all too chicken. He has threatened them with supporting money wise to anyone running against them. He's dumping money into state elections also
Yeah, if we survive as a country to have elections at all in 2026. I keep reminding myself to fight, and not give in to despair.
We all know what the solution will ultimately
be we just can’t say it out Loud,don’t we ?
It's hard though it's it. I keep debating moving to Germany where I have dual or Canada where I could drive to or stay and fight as long as possible. I'm 73 so some of my fight has left me. We had to do this in the 60s and 70s ! So frustrating to be here again !
But we have practice to pass on to others
Don’t forget there are special elections as early as this April. Donate and pass it on!
We have done that and still he is in the white house. If musk can manipulate & get into our federal buildings and data , he certainly was able to interfere with the election. I’m tired of the bs words. We need action now. Seems like AOC , Jasmine & a FEW dems have stood up unafraid. Where are the rest?
Count me in. I'm nobody. I'm just an American. I'm tired of words, too! I'm ready to do something!
Wrong. He does not have blanket immunity. We have to sue them, drag the cases through the courts and eventually they wind up in the Supreme Court, where THEY decide if he has immunity as an “official act.”
People need to stop saying this.
If SCOTUS decides he DOES have immunity on an act that was formerly deemed unconstitutional, WE REVOLT.
What did Trump know about the Muskrats part in messing with computer data to give Pennsylvania to Trump that Mike the Weasel also knew about? The Weasel plotted project 2025 too, didn’t he? I believe the dead fish they think they buried are beginning to reek way past being ignored anymore. Why the bloody hell are the Democrats not on this like white on rice?!?!?!
Disagree.
He does Not have total immunity from breaking any law he wants to. You’re sending a message that we’re truly helpless and that’s just not the case.
Elections are coming on April 1st in Florida. Even if you can’t vote there, send donations to Gay Valimont and Josh Weil. I live in Minnesota, but gladly gave to these brave democrats.
But don't you think Elon and his techy-team Can "fix" the elections making them useless for the will of the people?
Actually Trump can order what he likes with Impunity. However anyone not realizing an order is illegal and complying or implementing it is NOT IMMUNE. They need to be told it’s illegal confirmed by legal advice and ask for a legal version of the order.
https://open.substack.com/pub/ricknoz/p/playbook-how-8-groupings-can-resist?r=ukln1&utm_medium=ios
Trump could prevent elections by declaring a state of emergency or by invoking the insurrection act.
But whose going to arrest them.
US Marshalls.
They are DOJ. Really think they will?
DOJ is over US Marshalls
Exactly!
No one
They don't care. Trump has one concern, himself. Nothing else matters.
Mikie Johnson is a COWARD!
Republicans are either cowards or toadies!
They're both & spineless.
True, but the problem is that he's still the Russian agent's puppet, and to the oligarchy that now owns this country, that's all that matters.
He is also a dangerous liar. Never underestimate your opponent.
I know right? He’s such a little weasel
Mike Johnson is also a liar!
To him I say VA TE FAIRE FOUTRE
Musk and Trump are using cutting fraud, waste and abuse as a RUSE to dismantle our government and democracy in accordance with Project 2025. Trump lied that he didn’t know anything about it. They want to replace our freedom with a white supremacist, autocracy and extreme oppressive Christian ideology (and I say Christian lightly because they are anything but).
More likely the antichrist than Christians
Yes I use the term Christian lightly because they are anything but. They want to sound good so people don’t know how awful and evil they are, thus the name they’ve given themselves to justify their beliefs and actions.
Donald Trump is the antichrist. Elon Musk is the False Prophet. Even if you're not religious, it's good to know what is really going on.
If you want to get even more depressed, watch Bad Faith on Prime. It's horrifying.
Time to pull out the guns.
The Christian Nationalists are very involved with Project 2025 and Trump. Scary stuff. I’ll try to watch it!
God and Country is interesting too.
Right, 248 years of research, voting in people we trust in Congress, giving our most private information to the IRS, insurance companies, any govt group we participate in and this m’fn MoscowMike, Republican Congressional Cretins and Muskmelon Gutter Rat and his teen’y muskrats, using ‘key words on SEARCH’ to gut our F’N Democracy-FFFS
They have all sorts of lists to work down now for the Nazi intimidation and totalitarian abuse that is coming. MAGA morons you you did this. You think you are free? Nah! Eventually, when they are confident they don't need you anymore, they will get around to abusing you, too. You killed us you fools!
AGREED! YOU'VE GOT ANOTHER THING COMING, MAGAs!
So exactly how do the elderly, poor, disabled “get ready” for losses of Medicare and Social Security ( services they have paid into over their working lives) and Medicaid.
Exactly, many of us have no way to save anything!!
It would NEVER occur to Musk/Trump that the average working American was NOT born into
any level of inherited wealth! They have working class jobs that keep the wheels of
Capitalism turning! Most of them are decent
people who work hard,mind their own business and give and share until it hurts.
Trump/Musk are only takers. They have no concept of giving on any level!
Many wealthy individuals are philanthropic by nature but we all know as a class most Super
wealthy are greedy🐷pigs!
It sounds Corse but it’s true and disgusting!!
Individuals Citizens will have to take up
the cause Daily! Use every tool in the tool box!
I have stopped squirreling away what little I could. Passage of The Social Security Act - Thank You, Democrats, and one Republican who helped author the bill - was all to placate us. We will probably never see it come to fruition. I knew something was up when FELON came out and said he supported the SSFA. I pray I am wrong, can keep my house as it is just about all I can leave my daughter when I am gone. Things like traveling, updating my house (even window coverings), and landscaping are absolutely tabled.
Buying food is tabled in my house. It's either pay the bills, or eat. Very depressing.
We have to fight for our Social Security. We put our own $ into it. If we win that battle we go to the next one. Judges will have choices to make- tyranny or the United States of America.
We have choices to make and it won’t be on a screen
Sorry. I'm not counting on any judge.
I guess we just die.
As another one (I'm 77), you're exactly right.
No!
Or fight!
Yes! We do everything we can, or die trying. Personally, I like my freedom and I'm willing to fight for it.
No!
They die which exactly the plan
They want people to die
Unfortunately I agree with you. At peace knowing my daughter has started her family, and joyful in meeting my perfect grandson, but very worried about their future, so I FIGHT!
Exactly. I'm worried about my kids and grandkids.
New tagline for the GOP - Helping Americans Cross Over Before Their Time.
We can't, Maureen. I'm in the same boat as you. I can't even pay my bills AND buy groceries anymore. It's one or the other. I don't even have a car. I have no money for anything else. I want to give my house to my son when I die, but who knows if I'll even have it still. I guess when you have nothing left to lose, engaging in combat doesn't seem so bad. I want to take a couple of them with me when I go!
This is a friggin' heist. Now that he's admitted it, the Federal Judges, Dems and The Resistance has more ammo! Enjoy all those lawsuits and rulings against you, ya big idiot!
It is all in Project 2025 but that was only Part One. Part Two is not published nor will it ever be. This is not news. It hit the media 6 months ago. What surprises me is Congress had no game plan. None of this is unexpected. None of it. So really what's the use of commenting on any of it?
Have you read a project 2030?
No. Who authored that document Project 2030?
Bigly idiot
Follow the money: in 2018, Mike Johnson’s net worth was -$32k … Dec ‘24 his estimated net worth is $6million! Marco Rubio had NEGATIVE $1+mil… now has POSITIVE $1+mil! Look at the net worth (while you still can) of all the Republicans in Congress and you’ll see why they’re voting the way they are.
You must’ve watched something different than I did because Zelensky could barely get a word in edgewise JD. Vance started the tag team
Beratement of Zelenskyy
That was what I thought as well! I was angry watching CBS! They coined the meeting as “both sides YELLING at each other”! Excuse me? What’s that now? Uh, no! Zelensky was trying to speak, he was being berated on National broadcast! He held a dignified, and respectful conversation (or tried to). When my back is up against the wall, as his was, I come out fighting, often to my detriment, and often regret my short fuse. Zelensky was the only adult in the room and somehow remained composed. Just plain sickening!
I gave almost the exact answer as you, on a post from yesterday. JD Vance needs to shut up and go away. He's a pie-face. He's made alot of enemies already. Protestors protested yesterday at a ski resort Vance and his family were going to be staying at. Vance had to turn around and go someplace else!
Since Republicans won’t help our Democrat senators need to ramp up to save Medicaid, Medicare and Social Security. ENOUGH IS ENOUGH. No one 150 years old is getting social security. It didn’t start until 1935. Come on! Who would put birth dates in the 1800’s!!! They’re just saying that so they can lay the groundwork for shutting them down.
People rely on those programs to live check to check but in reality they don’t care if we live or not. And they don’t think we’ll have elections again so they aren’t worried about pleasing their constituents.
Agree. Slight correction. There were plenty of people who had birth dates in the 1800s in 1935. High end 100yr-old - 1835, lowest at 65 would be born in 1870.
I see what you mean. But erroneous birthdates would have had to be used for many years or people born in say 1875 were still being paid to this day to make it as bad as what Musk is claiming. Yet he provided still no names.
Because he's lying!
Because he had none.
The explanation I've seen, and it makes sense as I'm old enough to remember the system, is that the "geniuses" Skum is using and Skum himself have no idea how computers worked back in the early days of computers. The system COBAL was the one used, and there was no way to program those early machines to accept certain dates or empty dates. https://www.cbsnews.com/news/social-security-doge-100-150-year-olds-cobol-elon-musk/ https://www.wired.com/story/elon-musk-doge-social-security-150-year-old-benefits/
From personal experience, decades ago when I first got a computer that used floppy disks that could only hold 150K data, I used a program that defaulted dates to nonexistent numbers. And it drove me nuts, so I ended up resorting to paper and pencils. Another personal experience: when I first began working in 1973, I got to be really good at arithmetic as there was no such thing as a calculator for each employee. Even in the 90s, I had a branch manager tell me that I didn't need a computer to do my job.
In other words, Skum is a computer illiterate as are those 20-yr-olds. And in his world, it is unthinkable that many government systems are OLD because Congress refused to allow the agencies to get new technology.
The GOP is nothing more than a scam.
Mike Johnson first says that Trump trusts Putin in stopping the war deal. Then when asked what he thinks of Putin, he says he is a communist that cannot be trusted. Which is it?
Depends on whether or not his answer will get back to Trump or not.
He’s a puppet. He’s gonna do whatever they want him to do.
He’s a christian nationalist and not a follower of Christ and his actions scream that truth daily!
But one day, him, Musk, and Trump will reap what they sow. It’s just a matter of time.
Sure hope it’s sooner rather than later
You and I both.
Or maybe not. I’m hoping in my lifetime, but if not, that’ll work too. As long as it comes…
Unfortunately, it may be longer than our life times!😳
That’s OK. As long as our children and their children have what we had. A song by Mike and The Mechanics, Silent Running, is where we are. “Teach the children quietly for some day sons and daughters will rise up and fight, while we stood still.”
We are trying now, but where was I when this was coming, the signs were there in early 2000’s. The hatred of Obama, birtherism, accusations of Muslim, not Christian (neither is a bad thing), but FELON accused him of horrible things: lying, cheating - all the things that FELON did/does!
Agree, but in the meantime we can help push them to face their demons (US, the Americans being damaged, which know it or not, is every one of us)!
I do try, but sometimes it’s frustrating because they seem to be under a delusion so no matter what you say or do, they can’t really comprehend or absorb it. It’s like their lost or under a spell or something. Very frustrating….
If there had been such a person as Jesus Christ, that person would be horrified at the mess they have made of his teachings. These people are liars, traitors, and charlatans. (Yes, there's redundancy in that sentence. I used it for emphasis.)
He is a traitor and coward that needs to be removed immediately and musk is the one sucking our tax money away!! This is insane behavior and they must not succeed
Agree.
Look at the president’s golf expenses if you want to look at real fraud
And his golf scores are all fraudulent, too. Mother fucker cheats at everything.
Democrats need to charge them with treason....the sooner, the better.
Democrats can't legally charge anyone with anything. They have no power to bring criminal charges.--Jason
Then we do something more permanent.
Every time a baby is born in Louisiana, where Republican House Speaker Mike Johnson handily won reelection last year, there’s more than a 60% chance taxpayers will finance the birth through Medicaid.
In Republican Rep. David Valadao ’s central California district, 6 out of 10 people use Medicaid to pay for doctor visits and emergency room trips.
And one-third of the population is covered by Medicaid in GOP Sen. Lisa Murkowski’s Alaska, one of the nation’s costliest corners for health care.
Understand this mother fucker ;; Here is the deal: You fuck with Medicaid,, not only is America going to shit in your oatmeal and piss in your orange juice,,, you will be looking over your shoulder thr rest of your life, and you will not be reelected to clean urinal cakes in county jail