Releasing a report that would interfere with “the sensitive nature of the ongoing transition process” is not to be tolerated but sending an angry, violent crowd to stop the certification of the 2020 election certification was allowable.
If you look up the HR #, you can find out, but the Republicans controlled the House of Representatives and they probably did not let the bill come to a vote. Remember that there were something like 147 election deniers including the current Speaker of the House who are election deniers. Every single one of them should have been run out of the House and that might have played hell with the future Republican majority.
Have you read the first 20 pages of Government's Motion for Immunity Determinations? If not, you should and perhaps read even more since you will like it.
Unfortunately for our Republic, AG Garland apparently really IS an idiot. Or, at the very least, he was a monomaniac on a mission. He was so determined to rehabilitate Justice’s reputation for fairness that he (ironically) managed to prove that wealth and status do elevate some people above the rule of law. His resolute inability to see the forest for the trees has imperiled our democracy. He’s a tragic figure in an American tragedy.
Read my comment in rebuttal to your idea. Just look for my name. Have you read Government's Motion for Immunity Determinations? If not, read the first 20 pages or more. I think you will like it. You also should visit Just Security's Clearinghouse-january-6th-election-interference-case-district-of-columbia/ webpage which not only contains the Motion but all other associated documents and all of the obstacles that Trump using his campaign donor's funds placed in the path of the American people getting their day in court!
AG Garland chose a cautious path towards holding those responsible for inciting the 1/6 coup. Yes, DOJ prosecuted zillions of cases of the Jan 6th foot soldiers, but it took the recommendations of the J6 Congressional committee to persuade Garland to move against Trump for his role in the attempted coup. And, also yes, Trump used donor funds to elude the law and delay justice. Shouldn’t the AG have anticipated that and begun sooner, not later? And then there’s the documents case, during which an entire year passed while Florida became a clearing house for the US government’s national security secrets. Once the AG belatedly appointed the brilliant Jack Smith, the government finally got into gear, just in time to prove that justice delayed is justice denied. I still maintain that the AG indicted trees and missed the forest entirely.
Dt is already a convicted felon. MSM, maga, and the millionaires do not yet understand the totality and finality of this. It is a current, scandalous fact, it will become written history, it will burden his time in office, and his family and descendants will carry this well into generations. And now, additionally, perhaps Jack Smith may formally release the 1/6 report - or - write a book, give articles to independent news, or send installments in social media. We call this the First Amendment and Freedom of the Press. This is the beginning, and this, too, will never leave him.
The US allowing Dump a squat in the WH in 2016 was a wake up call to the globe that we are having serious issues. The 2024 selection of C in C of the rapist, molesting, traitorous Russia-loving criming draft dodger was our shark jump.
You have to hand it to Trump he will a reason for everything he did that day, and now a reason for not letting the public know what he did. He is the ultimate con man, you know one that never wants to held accountable, and now doesn't want us to know he provoked the attack on the Capital on Jan 6th. He will have his die hard supporters believe his every word, and believe he is innocent, or was a true patriot on that day. But the rest of us want to see it. So, of course the report should be released! We paid for it, and deserve to see it!
Roger's 100% correct and Cheryl knows exactly that THIS is what frump has done for his entire misbegotten adult life! Delay, delay, delay - any and all court proceedings. EVERY case brought against him - whether civil or criminal, he's managed to hire top-NY lawfirms (previously) to cause these delays, so the plaintiffs would eventually run out of money and give up. THAT is his 'art of the deal' in a nutshell. A pure scam: cheat people out of their money and hard work, refuse to pay them; force them to sue him, then have his lawyers continually delay the court proceedings until the person HE cheated goes broke or declares bankruptcy. He's rarely had to actually pay them AND has gotten away with these scams for decades. He brought THAT to the WH, much to republicans' shame. Most of them liked the idea of this bald-faced thievery- until the facts all began to come out and Courts began to rule against him; then the Judges, Juries, Prosecutors assigned to the cases became his 'enemies' along with all of us. He's nothing but a cheap grifter who literally ran out of money until his cultists sent him their dollars, bought his cheap scam garbage online and now these billionaires who all expect quid pro quo leaped in to to shore up his close to bankrupt trashy life. WHEN Jack Smith - a brilliant Prosecutor APPOINTED to this case and who is widely known for trying WAR CRIMINALS(!) so much for him being an ordinary citizen~releases his report we will all finally know exactly what was uncovered, although I'm also sure those magat cultists I know will still deny it all and claim it's 'fake'. Sigh.
Once again if we get to see the report. Trump is doing his usual, Cannon is try to gum up the release, run the clock down, so he will be put in office first. Then of course we can assume the report will not see the light of day. A similiar thing is happening in the NY court in the hush money case. I sure hope he doesn't get his way in either NY court or the Jack Smith report.
All true. What we need is a whistleblower in the Special Counsel's office who 'leaks' a copy IF it looks as though the 11th Circuit won't move quickly enough to override her partisan interference. She's SO desperate to land a cushy scotus position (this, despite having no experience - had heard only 4 cases prior to frump's) AND was routinely overturned by the 11th Circuit! He's clearly promised her a quid pro quo, likely old Clarence's seat, whom he'll order to retire. Then he'll have this young, LIFETIME appointed know-nothing jurist all in for him. Gad, it's sickening. She has NO jurisdiction over any case outside Florida so even if she can quash his stealing top secret documents, she can NOT quash the J6 insurrection! The report is in 2 separate volumes so at least that one should be immediately published for We the People!
Let's cross our fingers that Jack Smith's report will be released, and fast. Trump will be president in 2 short weeks, and then it is over. The report will mean nothing to those who he has brainwashed. But I and a whole lot of other people want to have confirmed what we saw on Jan 6th. But just maybe some of the Republicans will take note, and want nothing to do with Trump. But Trump is doing his best to convince us that what we saw was a peace demonstration instead of the riot we all saw on TV.
Garland should give Smith’s report to President Biden. President Biden should determine it is a report that should be made public and he should order its release. Let Trump’s lawyers claim President Biden had no authority to do what he did and that Biden violated the law (whatever law they come up with). Biden will say it was his duty and within the core powers of his presidency AND if he violated a law. - well the Supreme Court granted him absolute immunity! So…..read the report everyone!! Wouldn’t that be a super result!!!!!!
His false immunity, lack of following any rule of law and claiming January "6th was a day of love" is what our country has to live with for the next 4 years. He has no conscious! No American Patriotism! No morals or honesty in his sick being! Pathetic is the only way to describe this embarrassment for the United States government.
Not really - and the law is not political - we have the rule of law, it just takes time and time ran out thanks to all the stalls that Trump through in front of it using the monies of his generous campaign donors.
We have conservative Supreme Court justices who are definitely political with political agendas!! As a Black man living in America… I've never put my faith in the law! Now we get to see who the law doesn't apply to.
you're right - and we couldn't have seem more obvious examples as frump's clear racism over these past years. Combine his awfulness with musk's South African apartheid thinking (the reason he and his mama came to the US - because Nelson Mandela became President of South Africa)...he throws HIS money behind an already all-in white supremacist dolt who'll do his bidding. However, frump is SO stupid, if he continues to imagine he's the 'be all and end all' (he does seem to think he is 'the chosen one'), those billionaires who bought the election for him are going to tire quickly of his utter stupidity. There's nothing to stop ANY of them from spilling the beans about who and what he really is (although most of us already know)~it's his magat cultists who need to open their glued-shut eyes.
I keep praying every night that the fat old motherfucker will finally eat the fatal hamberder tonight and I'll wake up tomorrow to find he's just a bad dream.
I dunno TC, based on RFK being shot and his moronic brain worm addled brat living, God is a sadist that will make sure Dump dies in his bed, rich, safe and warm. Hope I am wrong
The letter sent to Garland by Trump’s lawyers is 100% meritless. The discovery in the case needs to be made public for the record. I don’t take such a hard view of Garland as many others do. Bringing such an unprecedented case involved a lot of I dotting and T crossing. There’s no way he wanted to come in less than 100% prepared. A lot of investigation needed to be done before a special prosecutor was assigned. Could the process have gone faster? Possibly, but nobody who wasn’t actually involved can really know.
Please. Witness how fast a special prosecutor was found for Hunter Biden. Garland can move quickly, when motivated. He assuredly wasn't motivated to prosecute the 1/6 traitors or Dump.
It also reads as though it was written by a 10year old! NO first-class attorney would sign their name to such a badly written and clearly not thought-out 'legal' argument (there isn't any in that entire letter). I'd BET frump dictated what he wanted them to say and so they assigned the lowest law clerk in their office to take the dictation and type it up.
Anyone who faults Attorney General Merrick Garland for slow prosecution should view the entire story as presented at Just Security which has all of the documents pertaining to the case except two, the letter from Attorney General Garland to Representative Bennie Thompson, Chair of the House of Representatives Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol requesting the Committee's transcripts of testimony and the reply from Chairman Thompson that refused the transcripts until they had finished their work. This delayed Department of Justice action by at least six months during which Special Counsel Jack Smith was appointed. Further, we have the appellate delays caused by Trump of the lead case, that in which he would have been proven to be a co-conspirator. Candidate Trump clearly appears to be a co-conspirator as described in the 165 page brief Government's Motion for Immunity Determinations and that Motion which is now readily findable and readable in WikiSource should be spread as wide as possible before 20 January so that the entire Nation knows that the co-conspirator wants to pardon his fellow conspirators and that he should not do that. January 6th must never recur; it should never be forgotten.
Why do you say that? Read my comments to the contrary. Just to Just Security dot org and Clearinghouse-january-6th-election-interference-case-district-of-columbia/ and see what the DoJ and Special Counsel have had thrown in their path.
Having a hard time getting your point!! You're right…I haven't read any of your post!! Sorry about that… maybe I'll go to your profile page and read more of your material? I was just trying to make my point about Merrick Garland… not you!
Thanks. Not sure I have a profile page here, but I have made a number of comments within this particular thread because I have spent a great deal of time pushing out Government's Motion for Immunity Determinations and on the various sites that now have this document. I am also very active in Quora where I do have a profile page.
My opinion, NO! He has always worn a red cap on his head while bending the knee and nodding acquiescence to Heritage Foundation and the Federalists Society. He is has fumbled his AG job, so don’t expect anything positive for the American Public. He is what he has always been, risen to the level of his incompetence!
Trump should be considered a Clear and Present Danger to the United States of America.
Releasing a report that would interfere with “the sensitive nature of the ongoing transition process” is not to be tolerated but sending an angry, violent crowd to stop the certification of the 2020 election certification was allowable.
Donald Trump's lawyers conveniently ignore that their client is a convicted felon with 34 pending indictments against him.
In June 2023 democrats introduced a bill that if a president is convicted of a felony he would lose his pension. Whatever happened with that?
If you look up the HR #, you can find out, but the Republicans controlled the House of Representatives and they probably did not let the bill come to a vote. Remember that there were something like 147 election deniers including the current Speaker of the House who are election deniers. Every single one of them should have been run out of the House and that might have played hell with the future Republican majority.
Have you read the first 20 pages of Government's Motion for Immunity Determinations? If not, you should and perhaps read even more since you will like it.
‘Factually distinguishable from the actual record’: Judge rejects Trump bid to delay hush-money sentencing.
Unfortunately for our Republic, AG Garland apparently really IS an idiot. Or, at the very least, he was a monomaniac on a mission. He was so determined to rehabilitate Justice’s reputation for fairness that he (ironically) managed to prove that wealth and status do elevate some people above the rule of law. His resolute inability to see the forest for the trees has imperiled our democracy. He’s a tragic figure in an American tragedy.
Read my comment in rebuttal to your idea. Just look for my name. Have you read Government's Motion for Immunity Determinations? If not, read the first 20 pages or more. I think you will like it. You also should visit Just Security's Clearinghouse-january-6th-election-interference-case-district-of-columbia/ webpage which not only contains the Motion but all other associated documents and all of the obstacles that Trump using his campaign donor's funds placed in the path of the American people getting their day in court!
AG Garland chose a cautious path towards holding those responsible for inciting the 1/6 coup. Yes, DOJ prosecuted zillions of cases of the Jan 6th foot soldiers, but it took the recommendations of the J6 Congressional committee to persuade Garland to move against Trump for his role in the attempted coup. And, also yes, Trump used donor funds to elude the law and delay justice. Shouldn’t the AG have anticipated that and begun sooner, not later? And then there’s the documents case, during which an entire year passed while Florida became a clearing house for the US government’s national security secrets. Once the AG belatedly appointed the brilliant Jack Smith, the government finally got into gear, just in time to prove that justice delayed is justice denied. I still maintain that the AG indicted trees and missed the forest entirely.
DOUBLE STANDARDS JUSTICE SYSTEM!
The report should be released ASAP. Trump and his cronies are a danger to democracy. The public should be privy to what the investigation unearthed.
Dt is already a convicted felon. MSM, maga, and the millionaires do not yet understand the totality and finality of this. It is a current, scandalous fact, it will become written history, it will burden his time in office, and his family and descendants will carry this well into generations. And now, additionally, perhaps Jack Smith may formally release the 1/6 report - or - write a book, give articles to independent news, or send installments in social media. We call this the First Amendment and Freedom of the Press. This is the beginning, and this, too, will never leave him.
The US allowing Dump a squat in the WH in 2016 was a wake up call to the globe that we are having serious issues. The 2024 selection of C in C of the rapist, molesting, traitorous Russia-loving criming draft dodger was our shark jump.
You have to hand it to Trump he will a reason for everything he did that day, and now a reason for not letting the public know what he did. He is the ultimate con man, you know one that never wants to held accountable, and now doesn't want us to know he provoked the attack on the Capital on Jan 6th. He will have his die hard supporters believe his every word, and believe he is innocent, or was a true patriot on that day. But the rest of us want to see it. So, of course the report should be released! We paid for it, and deserve to see it!
Roger's 100% correct and Cheryl knows exactly that THIS is what frump has done for his entire misbegotten adult life! Delay, delay, delay - any and all court proceedings. EVERY case brought against him - whether civil or criminal, he's managed to hire top-NY lawfirms (previously) to cause these delays, so the plaintiffs would eventually run out of money and give up. THAT is his 'art of the deal' in a nutshell. A pure scam: cheat people out of their money and hard work, refuse to pay them; force them to sue him, then have his lawyers continually delay the court proceedings until the person HE cheated goes broke or declares bankruptcy. He's rarely had to actually pay them AND has gotten away with these scams for decades. He brought THAT to the WH, much to republicans' shame. Most of them liked the idea of this bald-faced thievery- until the facts all began to come out and Courts began to rule against him; then the Judges, Juries, Prosecutors assigned to the cases became his 'enemies' along with all of us. He's nothing but a cheap grifter who literally ran out of money until his cultists sent him their dollars, bought his cheap scam garbage online and now these billionaires who all expect quid pro quo leaped in to to shore up his close to bankrupt trashy life. WHEN Jack Smith - a brilliant Prosecutor APPOINTED to this case and who is widely known for trying WAR CRIMINALS(!) so much for him being an ordinary citizen~releases his report we will all finally know exactly what was uncovered, although I'm also sure those magat cultists I know will still deny it all and claim it's 'fake'. Sigh.
Once again if we get to see the report. Trump is doing his usual, Cannon is try to gum up the release, run the clock down, so he will be put in office first. Then of course we can assume the report will not see the light of day. A similiar thing is happening in the NY court in the hush money case. I sure hope he doesn't get his way in either NY court or the Jack Smith report.
All true. What we need is a whistleblower in the Special Counsel's office who 'leaks' a copy IF it looks as though the 11th Circuit won't move quickly enough to override her partisan interference. She's SO desperate to land a cushy scotus position (this, despite having no experience - had heard only 4 cases prior to frump's) AND was routinely overturned by the 11th Circuit! He's clearly promised her a quid pro quo, likely old Clarence's seat, whom he'll order to retire. Then he'll have this young, LIFETIME appointed know-nothing jurist all in for him. Gad, it's sickening. She has NO jurisdiction over any case outside Florida so even if she can quash his stealing top secret documents, she can NOT quash the J6 insurrection! The report is in 2 separate volumes so at least that one should be immediately published for We the People!
Let's cross our fingers that Jack Smith's report will be released, and fast. Trump will be president in 2 short weeks, and then it is over. The report will mean nothing to those who he has brainwashed. But I and a whole lot of other people want to have confirmed what we saw on Jan 6th. But just maybe some of the Republicans will take note, and want nothing to do with Trump. But Trump is doing his best to convince us that what we saw was a peace demonstration instead of the riot we all saw on TV.
Garland should give Smith’s report to President Biden. President Biden should determine it is a report that should be made public and he should order its release. Let Trump’s lawyers claim President Biden had no authority to do what he did and that Biden violated the law (whatever law they come up with). Biden will say it was his duty and within the core powers of his presidency AND if he violated a law. - well the Supreme Court granted him absolute immunity! So…..read the report everyone!! Wouldn’t that be a super result!!!!!!
His false immunity, lack of following any rule of law and claiming January "6th was a day of love" is what our country has to live with for the next 4 years. He has no conscious! No American Patriotism! No morals or honesty in his sick being! Pathetic is the only way to describe this embarrassment for the United States government.
Trump you will never be smart like Merrick Garland
Sorry to say he has already outsmarted Garland!
He's not wrong. Garland had 4 years to make the case and failed all of us. Dems hav lost their base
This is about the law, not about who won an election.
Not really - and the law is not political - we have the rule of law, it just takes time and time ran out thanks to all the stalls that Trump through in front of it using the monies of his generous campaign donors.
We have conservative Supreme Court justices who are definitely political with political agendas!! As a Black man living in America… I've never put my faith in the law! Now we get to see who the law doesn't apply to.
you're right - and we couldn't have seem more obvious examples as frump's clear racism over these past years. Combine his awfulness with musk's South African apartheid thinking (the reason he and his mama came to the US - because Nelson Mandela became President of South Africa)...he throws HIS money behind an already all-in white supremacist dolt who'll do his bidding. However, frump is SO stupid, if he continues to imagine he's the 'be all and end all' (he does seem to think he is 'the chosen one'), those billionaires who bought the election for him are going to tire quickly of his utter stupidity. There's nothing to stop ANY of them from spilling the beans about who and what he really is (although most of us already know)~it's his magat cultists who need to open their glued-shut eyes.
'threw' in front of it. :)
I keep praying every night that the fat old motherfucker will finally eat the fatal hamberder tonight and I'll wake up tomorrow to find he's just a bad dream.
I dunno TC, based on RFK being shot and his moronic brain worm addled brat living, God is a sadist that will make sure Dump dies in his bed, rich, safe and warm. Hope I am wrong
I've been thinking along the same lines - the wrong RFK got shot.
He’s guilty as SIN!
He's literally every deadly sin, sewn together in an old rosin bag
Merrick Garland isn’t a felon put the that in your pipe and smoke it
The letter sent to Garland by Trump’s lawyers is 100% meritless. The discovery in the case needs to be made public for the record. I don’t take such a hard view of Garland as many others do. Bringing such an unprecedented case involved a lot of I dotting and T crossing. There’s no way he wanted to come in less than 100% prepared. A lot of investigation needed to be done before a special prosecutor was assigned. Could the process have gone faster? Possibly, but nobody who wasn’t actually involved can really know.
Please. Witness how fast a special prosecutor was found for Hunter Biden. Garland can move quickly, when motivated. He assuredly wasn't motivated to prosecute the 1/6 traitors or Dump.
It also reads as though it was written by a 10year old! NO first-class attorney would sign their name to such a badly written and clearly not thought-out 'legal' argument (there isn't any in that entire letter). I'd BET frump dictated what he wanted them to say and so they assigned the lowest law clerk in their office to take the dictation and type it up.
Anyone who faults Attorney General Merrick Garland for slow prosecution should view the entire story as presented at Just Security which has all of the documents pertaining to the case except two, the letter from Attorney General Garland to Representative Bennie Thompson, Chair of the House of Representatives Select Committee to Investigate the January 6th Attack on the United States Capitol requesting the Committee's transcripts of testimony and the reply from Chairman Thompson that refused the transcripts until they had finished their work. This delayed Department of Justice action by at least six months during which Special Counsel Jack Smith was appointed. Further, we have the appellate delays caused by Trump of the lead case, that in which he would have been proven to be a co-conspirator. Candidate Trump clearly appears to be a co-conspirator as described in the 165 page brief Government's Motion for Immunity Determinations and that Motion which is now readily findable and readable in WikiSource should be spread as wide as possible before 20 January so that the entire Nation knows that the co-conspirator wants to pardon his fellow conspirators and that he should not do that. January 6th must never recur; it should never be forgotten.
If Garland had made it the Supreme Court would he have been of any actual use?
He sure isn't any use as attorney general!! 🤨
Why do you say that? Read my comments to the contrary. Just to Just Security dot org and Clearinghouse-january-6th-election-interference-case-district-of-columbia/ and see what the DoJ and Special Counsel have had thrown in their path.
I'm sorry, but I am too through with Merick Garland!! He's a coward! If had done his job... I won't be afraid of January 20th!!
There is not a single specific here and you have not read any of my posts or the associated materials. Sorry about that.
Having a hard time getting your point!! You're right…I haven't read any of your post!! Sorry about that… maybe I'll go to your profile page and read more of your material? I was just trying to make my point about Merrick Garland… not you!
Thanks. Not sure I have a profile page here, but I have made a number of comments within this particular thread because I have spent a great deal of time pushing out Government's Motion for Immunity Determinations and on the various sites that now have this document. I am also very active in Quora where I do have a profile page.
My opinion, NO! He has always worn a red cap on his head while bending the knee and nodding acquiescence to Heritage Foundation and the Federalists Society. He is has fumbled his AG job, so don’t expect anything positive for the American Public. He is what he has always been, risen to the level of his incompetence!