The problem with waiting for them to crash and burn is that they may take our constitutional form of government with them. Our duty as citizens is to remove them before they get that far.
There is only one way to stop this madness. It is called Impeachment.
The Supreme Court in the aptly named case "Trump v United States" declared that the President is allowed to break the law when acting in his official capacity. They went on to specify that the people's only recourse is impeachment. Trying to fight every new assault in court won't stop the next one.
At this time, Democrats think impeachment is not possible because in order to convict, the cooperation of a small number of Republicans is necessary. But do not assume that this is impossible. Do Not Surrender In Advance. They're all politicians, and when pressure rises they react. Voters in red states are feeling the effects too -- perhaps even more, since they receive more federal benefits.
We need to begin the work of persuading Congress to impeach as soon as possible. Please see more information about this here
Get a majority of Democrats in the House and it will happen. It will never happen as long as there is a 1-vote GOP majority since they are all MAGA. (I wish I was wrong but I'm not)
You know that I have great respect for you, TC. But in this case, you are in fact wrong. Republicans are most definitely Not all MAGA.
There is a deep fissure in the GOP between MAGA extremists and traditional conservative Republicans. That's why it took multiple votes to elect a replacement Speaker in 2023. And it's why the debt ceiling was raised, military aid for Ukraine was approved, and funding was authorized to avoid a government shutdown in 2024. The MAGA faction vigorously opposed all of these, yet they passed by substantial margins in both houses.
My point in this post is that we can not surrender in advance. We can not refuse to engage in the one place where a true solution is possible just because the struggle will be difficult.
At the very least, let's not shut down conversation on the subject by predicting that "it'll never happen." We can start by naming specific Republicans who represent districts where MAGA is not a significant force. Two that immediately come to mind are Don Bacon (R-NB) and Brian Fitzpatrick (R-PA). There are many others.
While I agree with you that not all Republicans are personally committed to MAGA, the fact is that the normie republicans are happy to go along with MAGA. They have stayed within the party silently or occasionally "concerned", but like Susan Collins that concern never manifests itself as the slightest bit of action. Thus the idea that they are not all on board with this seems like a lie precisely because they never take action to change it.
Republicans have had a choice to make, stick to their principles or stick to Trump. They have chosen Trump and Trumpism every, single, time. At this point they have to step up in a bigger way for me to believe they are serious about opposing him.
Exactly!! You are spot on. We have to survive these first two years and pray the voters come to their senses. I am really concerned that too many voters are so uninformed and unconcerned that we may have a repeat of 2024!
That has already started. The same Democrat that proposed the other impeachments in his first term has already filed the bill for impeachment, but the problem is that Trump and his stooges control all three branch of government. The Democrats are fighting tooth and nail but the Republicans in Congress block everything and they refuse to buck Trump and Musk out of fear they will be primaried and lose their cushy jobs. Even if a lawsuit that might stop a lot of this bullshit reaches the Supreme Court will those dumb asses save the country or even follow the Constitution? I don't trust them at all!!
I am afraid it will take a real civil war to bring them down. I hope the military at least follows the constitution. The longer we let them solidify themselves the harder it will be to take back power. America has been taken by Russia from the inside it feels like. We are in dangerous times. Time for desperate measures. Unfortunately. They are messing with American's and Global security. Your mine and everyone else.
I agree! I am hoping there will be a lot of people who didn’t vote in the last election who will get involved again and definitely vote from now on!! I live in Kentucky and there was a big demonstration in Louisville protesting about Musk’s and Trump’s unconstitutional acts. I was very encouraged by what I saw.
You know that I have great respect for you, TC. But in this case, you are in fact wrong. Republicans are most definitely Not all MAGA.
There is a deep fissure in the GOP between MAGA extremists and traditional conservative Republicans. That's why it took multiple votes to elect a replacement Speaker in 2023. And it's why the debt ceiling was raised, military aid for Ukraine was approved, and funding was authorized to avoid a government shutdown in 2024. The MAGA faction vigorously opposed all of these, yet they passed by substantial margins in both houses.
My point in this post is that we can not surrender in advance. We can not refuse to engage in the one place where a true solution is possible just because the struggle will be difficult.
At the very least, let's not shut down conversation on the subject by predicting that "it'll never happen." We can start by naming specific Republicans who represent districts where MAGA is not a significant force. Two that immediately come to mind are Don Bacon (R-NB) and Brian Fitzpatrick (R-PA). There are many others.
MAGA is a cancerous tumor on the GOP. It will totally destroy it. That’s pretty much where it is now. The non-MAGA minority of the GOP will never be in charge again. Ever.
The only problem with impeachment, even if enough Republicans in the house voted for it (at least three Rs), it takes a supra majority in the Senate to convict. That would mean that at the very least it would take 11 Republican senators to vote for conviction. Last time there were only three or four R senators that voted for conviction. Do you really think that that many Republican senators would vote for conviction?
Ask for a secret ballot. I bet you might get the impeachment and removal them. We'd still have Vance, who also owes Musk, but it would really send a statement of FAFO.
Impeachment would only eliminate T from the wheel of power, if successful. To be replaced by JDV......
And it has been speculated throughout this forum that that is the agenda anyway the Reps have in the background with T being called out unfit for office. And T is doing everything in his mentally deranged and more and more demented state laying the foundation for it. Project 2025 should be used as a source of information - and a document to check against what is outlined in action vs. what the admin has been doing so far.
Can it be done through a secret vote? I think nearly every Republican is afraid to vote either for impeachment or conviction because of the likely repercussions to their careers & lives by the vindictive Trump, but perhaps if the vote were secret, some of them, maybe enough, would vote to impeach/convict him
Trump appears increasingly confused. His speech is more jumbled and tangential. He doesn’t seem to fully grasp what Musk is doing. And yes, things are going to need to get very bad for Trump voters before they’ll get it. In the meantime, make sure you’re up to date on your vaccinations and keep paying attention to credible sources of information. Survive, resist, and ultimately prevail.
Do you think Musk is giving him Ketamine? or is it Dementia? Trump now reads off a piece of paper at a 3rd grade level. Hesitant wirh words, leaning on podium and not making eye contact. All associated with Ketamine use and Dementia
Dementia. This has been suspected for years. Do a search on "Trump Frontotemporal Dementia." It is believed to be the result of untreated syphilis that he may have contracted during his promiscuous times in the 80s. His odd posture of leaning forward posture is part of the syndrome. https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-dementia-evidence-overwhelming-top-psychiatrist-1881247
The article I just referenced isn't very good; I'm sure that there are better ones out there. For one thing, the article mentions the cognitive test that Trump took and which he has bragged about, which was just a very simple screening test that takes about 10 minutes.
The doctor you're referring to is that the same one who gave him a raving medical review and has been arrested multiple times for falsifying records for people on SSD?
I believe so, yes. Though there was also the one who was involved when he was in the hospital with COVID, and it could have been him. That guy reportedly covered up how ill Trump was.
Every third grader knows that a whisper campaign is a mighty take down on the playground accomplished with very little effort. Stop referring to trump as president, and begin referring to musk as president musk. Simple, effective effort which trump can't handle.
Does "the president" know that most of both his and Musk's followers are critics who loathe them and watchdog news agencies? The number of followers, besides being a very adolescent way of thinking about anything, is not an indication of fandom.
They are peas in a pod, little rich whiners who never had to earn anything or experience any lack or struggle. They learned from their ruthless businessmen grifter white collar criminal fathers how the game is played and have done them proud. If not for their embracing their legacies this way, they would both be incels instead of baby daddy to countless raped women and wives. They think they are top gene material but they are actually the scum. Sad.
The two peas have separate issues 1 with Dementia and 1 with Ketamine addiction. I think the second pea is drugging the first. Look at T's body language, leaning on the podium, no eye contact and his speeches are being read off of paper at a 3rd grade level with hesitations as if he doesn't or can't pronounce the words.
Trump is always intimidated by strength. Amoral Musk is aggressive and completely self serving. That’s what they have in common .. self interest only. They must be stopped. Deport Musk. He is a threat to America.
Spot on. Everything being done is to line up the removal of services and funds for the people that truly need it. But, until their SS check is not deposited or their Medicare is no longer. When schools close and you have to stay home from work to care for them. When cost of goods continue to increase and gas prices rise. Their job can no longer keep them. Until it hits them directly they will continue to bow to the will of their almighty Trump.
I do hope you are right. However, I wonder if this is all a ruse to privatize all our government services. We all know the failure of privatized medical care!!!! PRIVATE = PROFIT AND HIGHER PRICES/LESS SERVICE FOR THE PUBLIC!
I believe it is definitely a grab by billionaires to privatize ALL government services, even the military. Just keep a dictator as a figurehead to worship.
Trump's touched a tar baby. He’s stuck and he doesn’t have an undo button. This is the culmination of allowing so much money into elections. Now the money totally owns the candidate.
PACs (political action committees) Citizens United and over-powerful political parties (Primaries) have ruined American Democracy.
As have the electoral college and no punishment for cheating, like Gerrymandering and voter suppression, purging.
Judges ruled it illegal to pass out water bottles to voters in long lines, in black areas, after closing most poling stations. Not just allow anybody to do it, but ban it.
The US is screwed because people allow it to be.
The insane wealth gap is climbing daily. When parents can't feed their kids, why wouldn't they steal from you? I know I would.
The richest man in the world just convinced the dumbest, most powerful man to cut (cancel?) food and disaster aide to the absolutely poorest people on earth.
Yeah... I’m physically depressed about what these jerks are doing to USAID. The upshot, not to mention the suffering, the defunding of medical research and public health initiatives is that America is losing credibility all over the world. It’s a gift to China and Russia, gleeful about the opportunity to spread their sphere of influence. How do we get our respectability back? Trump, Musk and venal/cowardly Republicans have turned America into a political suicide machine. They're a cancer on the body politic. You know what we do to cancers, right?
Of course he is. He owes him big time. He did fix the last election for him & Trump admitted it. We also know that he is worried about Musk taking power away from him because he said - when everyone started to refer to Musk as Pres. Musk - he can’t be president because he wasn’t born here. That fucking pea brain was already worried & afraid that his monster is going to overpower him!!!
All those fools who refused to vote and allowed this atrocity to take place. We will never forgive or forget. All those minorities and women who voted for him this time, shame on you all.
I can only hope that you are correct. In the meantime, I’m very afraid. While republicans in congress sold their souls years ago, they still have the power. And while those of us who can read/think knew the felon’s stint would be disastrous, millions of maggots are out there and have NO IDEA what’s happening in our country.
PS. I turned to FOX to see how they’re spinning the GAZA story. NO MENTION OF GAZA! None! His MAGGOTS think the felon is working on lowering the price of eggs!
Our democracy has been sold down the river for a measly $250 million. I am so over the assholes who stayed home and didn’t vote. My refrigerator magnet says it best, “Bad people are elected by people who don’t vote!”
Yes, he is afraid if he abandons the muskrat that he will loose the tit that put him in the White House. Trump is interested in milking the money for increasing his own wealth. I wonder how much grifting is going on under the radar while the muskrat holds everyone, who cares, attention.
If only they would literally crash and burn. Sigh
If they are in a Tesla, it could happen.
Hahahahaha! 🎯
Good one. At least sales are down.
I don't want anyone to be hurt, but I would like the huge plant in China burn to the ground. (Heads up to the employees)
The problem with waiting for them to crash and burn is that they may take our constitutional form of government with them. Our duty as citizens is to remove them before they get that far.
There is only one way to stop this madness. It is called Impeachment.
The Supreme Court in the aptly named case "Trump v United States" declared that the President is allowed to break the law when acting in his official capacity. They went on to specify that the people's only recourse is impeachment. Trying to fight every new assault in court won't stop the next one.
At this time, Democrats think impeachment is not possible because in order to convict, the cooperation of a small number of Republicans is necessary. But do not assume that this is impossible. Do Not Surrender In Advance. They're all politicians, and when pressure rises they react. Voters in red states are feeling the effects too -- perhaps even more, since they receive more federal benefits.
We need to begin the work of persuading Congress to impeach as soon as possible. Please see more information about this here
https://jerryweiss.substack.com/p/resistance-is-not-enough
.
Get a majority of Democrats in the House and it will happen. It will never happen as long as there is a 1-vote GOP majority since they are all MAGA. (I wish I was wrong but I'm not)
But then there is the Senate needed to vote for conviction.
Great point! Then we are back to square one! The only hope is that we can take back the house and senate.
You know that I have great respect for you, TC. But in this case, you are in fact wrong. Republicans are most definitely Not all MAGA.
There is a deep fissure in the GOP between MAGA extremists and traditional conservative Republicans. That's why it took multiple votes to elect a replacement Speaker in 2023. And it's why the debt ceiling was raised, military aid for Ukraine was approved, and funding was authorized to avoid a government shutdown in 2024. The MAGA faction vigorously opposed all of these, yet they passed by substantial margins in both houses.
My point in this post is that we can not surrender in advance. We can not refuse to engage in the one place where a true solution is possible just because the struggle will be difficult.
At the very least, let's not shut down conversation on the subject by predicting that "it'll never happen." We can start by naming specific Republicans who represent districts where MAGA is not a significant force. Two that immediately come to mind are Don Bacon (R-NB) and Brian Fitzpatrick (R-PA). There are many others.
For more details see: https://jerryweiss.substack.com/p/resistance-is-not-enough
.
While I agree with you that not all Republicans are personally committed to MAGA, the fact is that the normie republicans are happy to go along with MAGA. They have stayed within the party silently or occasionally "concerned", but like Susan Collins that concern never manifests itself as the slightest bit of action. Thus the idea that they are not all on board with this seems like a lie precisely because they never take action to change it.
Republicans have had a choice to make, stick to their principles or stick to Trump. They have chosen Trump and Trumpism every, single, time. At this point they have to step up in a bigger way for me to believe they are serious about opposing him.
https://publis324843.substack.com/p/focus-on-the-normies?r=7av8t
Exactly!! You are spot on. We have to survive these first two years and pray the voters come to their senses. I am really concerned that too many voters are so uninformed and unconcerned that we may have a repeat of 2024!
That was the rigged election.
That has already started. The same Democrat that proposed the other impeachments in his first term has already filed the bill for impeachment, but the problem is that Trump and his stooges control all three branch of government. The Democrats are fighting tooth and nail but the Republicans in Congress block everything and they refuse to buck Trump and Musk out of fear they will be primaried and lose their cushy jobs. Even if a lawsuit that might stop a lot of this bullshit reaches the Supreme Court will those dumb asses save the country or even follow the Constitution? I don't trust them at all!!
I am afraid it will take a real civil war to bring them down. I hope the military at least follows the constitution. The longer we let them solidify themselves the harder it will be to take back power. America has been taken by Russia from the inside it feels like. We are in dangerous times. Time for desperate measures. Unfortunately. They are messing with American's and Global security. Your mine and everyone else.
I agree! I am hoping there will be a lot of people who didn’t vote in the last election who will get involved again and definitely vote from now on!! I live in Kentucky and there was a big demonstration in Louisville protesting about Musk’s and Trump’s unconstitutional acts. I was very encouraged by what I saw.
You know that I have great respect for you, TC. But in this case, you are in fact wrong. Republicans are most definitely Not all MAGA.
There is a deep fissure in the GOP between MAGA extremists and traditional conservative Republicans. That's why it took multiple votes to elect a replacement Speaker in 2023. And it's why the debt ceiling was raised, military aid for Ukraine was approved, and funding was authorized to avoid a government shutdown in 2024. The MAGA faction vigorously opposed all of these, yet they passed by substantial margins in both houses.
My point in this post is that we can not surrender in advance. We can not refuse to engage in the one place where a true solution is possible just because the struggle will be difficult.
At the very least, let's not shut down conversation on the subject by predicting that "it'll never happen." We can start by naming specific Republicans who represent districts where MAGA is not a significant force. Two that immediately come to mind are Don Bacon (R-NB) and Brian Fitzpatrick (R-PA). There are many others.
For more details see: https://jerryweiss.substack.com/p/resistance-is-not-enough
.
MAGA is a cancerous tumor on the GOP. It will totally destroy it. That’s pretty much where it is now. The non-MAGA minority of the GOP will never be in charge again. Ever.
The only problem with impeachment, even if enough Republicans in the house voted for it (at least three Rs), it takes a supra majority in the Senate to convict. That would mean that at the very least it would take 11 Republican senators to vote for conviction. Last time there were only three or four R senators that voted for conviction. Do you really think that that many Republican senators would vote for conviction?
Honestly I doubt it but miracles do happen. It would be worth the effort!
Ask for a secret ballot. I bet you might get the impeachment and removal them. We'd still have Vance, who also owes Musk, but it would really send a statement of FAFO.
Impeachment would only eliminate T from the wheel of power, if successful. To be replaced by JDV......
And it has been speculated throughout this forum that that is the agenda anyway the Reps have in the background with T being called out unfit for office. And T is doing everything in his mentally deranged and more and more demented state laying the foundation for it. Project 2025 should be used as a source of information - and a document to check against what is outlined in action vs. what the admin has been doing so far.
drump is too dumb to understand his own impotence... no knowlege, only instinct... and not enough of either.
Can it be done through a secret vote? I think nearly every Republican is afraid to vote either for impeachment or conviction because of the likely repercussions to their careers & lives by the vindictive Trump, but perhaps if the vote were secret, some of them, maybe enough, would vote to impeach/convict him
Someone just today said they’re bringing impeachment articles against Trump.
Trump appears increasingly confused. His speech is more jumbled and tangential. He doesn’t seem to fully grasp what Musk is doing. And yes, things are going to need to get very bad for Trump voters before they’ll get it. In the meantime, make sure you’re up to date on your vaccinations and keep paying attention to credible sources of information. Survive, resist, and ultimately prevail.
MAGA will never get it, they’ll just keep accepting the lies Trump and the GOP are spoon feeding them.
Do you think Musk is giving him Ketamine? or is it Dementia? Trump now reads off a piece of paper at a 3rd grade level. Hesitant wirh words, leaning on podium and not making eye contact. All associated with Ketamine use and Dementia
Dementia. This has been suspected for years. Do a search on "Trump Frontotemporal Dementia." It is believed to be the result of untreated syphilis that he may have contracted during his promiscuous times in the 80s. His odd posture of leaning forward posture is part of the syndrome. https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-dementia-evidence-overwhelming-top-psychiatrist-1881247
I did. Thank you.
The article I just referenced isn't very good; I'm sure that there are better ones out there. For one thing, the article mentions the cognitive test that Trump took and which he has bragged about, which was just a very simple screening test that takes about 10 minutes.
The doctor you're referring to is that the same one who gave him a raving medical review and has been arrested multiple times for falsifying records for people on SSD?
I believe so, yes. Though there was also the one who was involved when he was in the hospital with COVID, and it could have been him. That guy reportedly covered up how ill Trump was.
Every third grader knows that a whisper campaign is a mighty take down on the playground accomplished with very little effort. Stop referring to trump as president, and begin referring to musk as president musk. Simple, effective effort which trump can't handle.
Does "the president" know that most of both his and Musk's followers are critics who loathe them and watchdog news agencies? The number of followers, besides being a very adolescent way of thinking about anything, is not an indication of fandom.
They are peas in a pod, little rich whiners who never had to earn anything or experience any lack or struggle. They learned from their ruthless businessmen grifter white collar criminal fathers how the game is played and have done them proud. If not for their embracing their legacies this way, they would both be incels instead of baby daddy to countless raped women and wives. They think they are top gene material but they are actually the scum. Sad.
The two peas have separate issues 1 with Dementia and 1 with Ketamine addiction. I think the second pea is drugging the first. Look at T's body language, leaning on the podium, no eye contact and his speeches are being read off of paper at a 3rd grade level with hesitations as if he doesn't or can't pronounce the words.
Trump is always intimidated by strength. Amoral Musk is aggressive and completely self serving. That’s what they have in common .. self interest only. They must be stopped. Deport Musk. He is a threat to America.
He needs something more permanent than deportation. Like hanging by his heels from a gas station sign.
Mussoliniesque
Spot on. Everything being done is to line up the removal of services and funds for the people that truly need it. But, until their SS check is not deposited or their Medicare is no longer. When schools close and you have to stay home from work to care for them. When cost of goods continue to increase and gas prices rise. Their job can no longer keep them. Until it hits them directly they will continue to bow to the will of their almighty Trump.
I do hope you are right. However, I wonder if this is all a ruse to privatize all our government services. We all know the failure of privatized medical care!!!! PRIVATE = PROFIT AND HIGHER PRICES/LESS SERVICE FOR THE PUBLIC!
I believe it is definitely a grab by billionaires to privatize ALL government services, even the military. Just keep a dictator as a figurehead to worship.
Trump's touched a tar baby. He’s stuck and he doesn’t have an undo button. This is the culmination of allowing so much money into elections. Now the money totally owns the candidate.
PACs (political action committees) Citizens United and over-powerful political parties (Primaries) have ruined American Democracy.
As have the electoral college and no punishment for cheating, like Gerrymandering and voter suppression, purging.
Judges ruled it illegal to pass out water bottles to voters in long lines, in black areas, after closing most poling stations. Not just allow anybody to do it, but ban it.
The US is screwed because people allow it to be.
The insane wealth gap is climbing daily. When parents can't feed their kids, why wouldn't they steal from you? I know I would.
The richest man in the world just convinced the dumbest, most powerful man to cut (cancel?) food and disaster aide to the absolutely poorest people on earth.
I'm going to puke.
Yeah... I’m physically depressed about what these jerks are doing to USAID. The upshot, not to mention the suffering, the defunding of medical research and public health initiatives is that America is losing credibility all over the world. It’s a gift to China and Russia, gleeful about the opportunity to spread their sphere of influence. How do we get our respectability back? Trump, Musk and venal/cowardly Republicans have turned America into a political suicide machine. They're a cancer on the body politic. You know what we do to cancers, right?
Of course he is. He owes him big time. He did fix the last election for him & Trump admitted it. We also know that he is worried about Musk taking power away from him because he said - when everyone started to refer to Musk as Pres. Musk - he can’t be president because he wasn’t born here. That fucking pea brain was already worried & afraid that his monster is going to overpower him!!!
Trump gets off on the visual of being besties with the richest man in the world. That's all it's about.
I think we'll find that it's the lawyers who will save us.
Sure hope
All those fools who refused to vote and allowed this atrocity to take place. We will never forgive or forget. All those minorities and women who voted for him this time, shame on you all.
I can only hope that you are correct. In the meantime, I’m very afraid. While republicans in congress sold their souls years ago, they still have the power. And while those of us who can read/think knew the felon’s stint would be disastrous, millions of maggots are out there and have NO IDEA what’s happening in our country.
PS. I turned to FOX to see how they’re spinning the GAZA story. NO MENTION OF GAZA! None! His MAGGOTS think the felon is working on lowering the price of eggs!
Our democracy has been sold down the river for a measly $250 million. I am so over the assholes who stayed home and didn’t vote. My refrigerator magnet says it best, “Bad people are elected by people who don’t vote!”
Yes, he is afraid if he abandons the muskrat that he will loose the tit that put him in the White House. Trump is interested in milking the money for increasing his own wealth. I wonder how much grifting is going on under the radar while the muskrat holds everyone, who cares, attention.
The Democrats must take a page from the GOP and burn this goddamn administration to the ground. Do whatever they must to stop this criminal scumbag.
Place the Wilye Coyote gif here…the one where the 2ton Anvil follows & hits him on his head.