Unless somebody in the know comes out and says yes, we got rid of her to please Trump, we can't know for sure. This does seem a lot like the CNN/Jim Acosta situation.---Jason
Just trying to stick to the facts as they are known. It is not pandering to want to be truthful. There were a lot of issues between Joy Reid and her bosses at MSNBC that pre-date Trump's win. Oliver Darcy has written about them in his newsletter, so we can't really know, but the facts, including her ratings suggest that there is more to the story that we don't know. Unlike some people, I don't write what people want to hear just for attention. I try to stick to providing information and any opinions are informed by available information.---Jason
I think, just my opinion, that in this case, Occam's Razor applies. I think you're afraid to be blunt, months, years ago I thought you were always right on target. Idk, maybe the threat of pressure by Trump's thugs is affecting you? I ALWAYS thought politicus.com was sharp and on top of the truth, never backing away from the obvious. No insult intended, I am worried about everything these days.
There is no pressure on us from anyone, but I do feel a responsibility to let Joy Reid tell HER story her own way. I feel that she is the only one who can adequately and fully say what happened. It is far from obvious what happened. Just like when other MSNBC people have left the network, there is usually more to it than the obvious answer. Plus, Trump is a pathological liar, and there is nothing that he says that should be believed. He could easily be hopping on the Reid situation to exploit for his own means. Joy Reid has a history of conflict with her bosses at MSNBC, so I am not going to attach an opinion that might be totally wrong and twist a narrative because of some people's opinions. I think framing Reid's firing especially as a race issue as Trump did is really unfair to her and har career, and I won't do that. I can assure you that we are committed to telling all stories truthfully, but just because in your opinion something is obvious, doesn't make it a fact. ---Jason
I don't get the Oliver Darcy newsletter. And I had no idea the purity of purpose behind your comment. I'm just waiting for Trump's promised retribution, standing by to watch the Free Press go full-Kremlim.
The fact of the matter is that she is not a team player pro. They//MSNBC do not need a commentator that comes across as a woke...Black Panther advocate
I don't think it was politically motivated at all. I think just like all the other outlets owned by big corporations that have caved, it is all about money. Remember, MSNBC leftward branding is basically just marketing. They have 0 progressives on the network, and more hours featuring former Republicans than progressives. Comcast needs government approval to spin off and likely sell MSNBC so they need to make sure the administration doesn't block them. It is the same thing other big corporate media has done since Trump won. Corporate owned media, including MSNBC only cares about profits. They aren't on your side or political.--Jason
They got rid of here because she was fucking offensive to the masses,,,,and the masses did not lose the election.... It is a big world and Democrats still believe in fair fight and reason
It is disgusting how many knees bow to that ugly piece of trash.America is selling it's soul to Satan, quite literally. I don't get the attraction. If #Everyone would stand up and be counted, he would back off because he would have no choice. I am sick of the weasels.
trump called Special counsel Jack Smith: Deranged, scum, raging lunatic, thug, corrupt, psycho, sick puppy, a disgrace, lowlife, evil, sinister and delusional. All of that was projection also.
Free speech by anyone other than republicans is dead in this country. I live in Florida.
And you have to be very careful what you say in public. I usually speak my mind anyway.Because I am 78 years old and I have earned that privilege. I did that during the moron's first term also. Years ago I had an abusive husband and I never let him stop me from speaking my mind so I've had a lot of practice.
Every single time slot I watch has them focusing on POS and his manifest failures and plans to sink the country and the economy. They are NOT abdicating to him. They're opposing all the time. WATCH instead of parroting POS propaganda. If MSNBC does get sold, we might lose the only national channel that opposes him. And please don't say watch YouTube or stream or anything else. I do NOT do any of those, well, I do watch YouTube, and I venture to guess that the people the media needs to reach don't read substack!
Yes I do! I think it is despicable! She is wonderful and not afraid to tell the truth about that rapist felon! What kind of country are we turning into that we have to bow and scrape to a FASCIST dictator lover!? Where is our SPINE? Here we have a rapist, felon, cheater sitting in the Oval office I am sure most previous presidents are turning in their graves and Hitler is thrilled! Does anyone ever learn anything from the past? Trump admires Hitler and other terrible thugs like him and people in this country have elected him twice! What disrespect to those who died under the regime of dictators like Hitler, Putin, Stalin and other terrible people, and Americans elected this excuse for a human! I wish I could move away but I am probably too old now, it’s heartbreaking to find that no one learned a damn thing!
Not hard to see after the Morning Joe A$$ kiss. Don’t just nod your head, turn “MSNBC OFF”. Sure as heck not going to miss anything. I canceled YouTube TV and couldn’t be happier. Grow a backbone US.
Then you're playing into POS's hands. Forget Morning Joe - though most of the bits I've seen have been anti-POS. Everybody else is focusing on defeating POS, Skum and their pets.
YES!! I just ditched my iPhone MSNBC app!! 👏👏 The networks are run by traitor billionaires who squeal when Krasnov aka Felon34 doesn’t like truth-tellers and fact-checkers talking to the people he has lied to.
MSNBC fact-checks him all the time. Right, they're talking about the crap that Skum is doing. They have Ds all the time, and anti-Trumpers all the time. Why are people here hiding their heads in the sand that POS and Skum and Johnson are throwing in their faces?
I think Chris Hayes is on the same time as CNN’s Anderson Cooper which may account for Chris’ lower ratings. Anderson is very popular. Chris is smart and passionate while Anderson is smart and very cautious. As for Joy Reid I appreciated her passion and pleasing Trump is the last thing media should be doing.
Chris Hayes is intelligent and I like listening to him and I will follow Joy on Substack where she can be a journalist like many who are out of the mainstream that is all on with the right wing new government of the United States..
It's the most logical explanation. In fact to believe otherwise would be ridiculous. If she wanted to stay, she would have needed to hitch a ride along with Morning Joe to grovel and kiss the ring.
Of course!!!! That had to be a “no shit, Sherlock” moment!
Unless somebody in the know comes out and says yes, we got rid of her to please Trump, we can't know for sure. This does seem a lot like the CNN/Jim Acosta situation.---Jason
I love this op-ed thank you for blessing with your viewpoint
Don't pander, read between the lines. That's what happened. Jeez, what happened to you?
Just trying to stick to the facts as they are known. It is not pandering to want to be truthful. There were a lot of issues between Joy Reid and her bosses at MSNBC that pre-date Trump's win. Oliver Darcy has written about them in his newsletter, so we can't really know, but the facts, including her ratings suggest that there is more to the story that we don't know. Unlike some people, I don't write what people want to hear just for attention. I try to stick to providing information and any opinions are informed by available information.---Jason
I think, just my opinion, that in this case, Occam's Razor applies. I think you're afraid to be blunt, months, years ago I thought you were always right on target. Idk, maybe the threat of pressure by Trump's thugs is affecting you? I ALWAYS thought politicus.com was sharp and on top of the truth, never backing away from the obvious. No insult intended, I am worried about everything these days.
There is no pressure on us from anyone, but I do feel a responsibility to let Joy Reid tell HER story her own way. I feel that she is the only one who can adequately and fully say what happened. It is far from obvious what happened. Just like when other MSNBC people have left the network, there is usually more to it than the obvious answer. Plus, Trump is a pathological liar, and there is nothing that he says that should be believed. He could easily be hopping on the Reid situation to exploit for his own means. Joy Reid has a history of conflict with her bosses at MSNBC, so I am not going to attach an opinion that might be totally wrong and twist a narrative because of some people's opinions. I think framing Reid's firing especially as a race issue as Trump did is really unfair to her and har career, and I won't do that. I can assure you that we are committed to telling all stories truthfully, but just because in your opinion something is obvious, doesn't make it a fact. ---Jason
I don't get the Oliver Darcy newsletter. And I had no idea the purity of purpose behind your comment. I'm just waiting for Trump's promised retribution, standing by to watch the Free Press go full-Kremlim.
The fact of the matter is that she is not a team player pro. They//MSNBC do not need a commentator that comes across as a woke...Black Panther advocate
What DO they NEED, then?
Losing Joy is tragic and politically motivated.
I don't think it was politically motivated at all. I think just like all the other outlets owned by big corporations that have caved, it is all about money. Remember, MSNBC leftward branding is basically just marketing. They have 0 progressives on the network, and more hours featuring former Republicans than progressives. Comcast needs government approval to spin off and likely sell MSNBC so they need to make sure the administration doesn't block them. It is the same thing other big corporate media has done since Trump won. Corporate owned media, including MSNBC only cares about profits. They aren't on your side or political.--Jason
Yes of course.
It sure does.
I really miss Joy Reid.I was very sorry to see her go. And yes they probably got rid of her to appease Donald Trump.
They got rid of here because she was fucking offensive to the masses,,,,and the masses did not lose the election.... It is a big world and Democrats still believe in fair fight and reason
She was the only one on there that was any good.
Falsehood... She was not good... It is like having Hitler as a local weatherman... People shut it out
Trump calling someone a racist. There's a switch.
It is disgusting how many knees bow to that ugly piece of trash.America is selling it's soul to Satan, quite literally. I don't get the attraction. If #Everyone would stand up and be counted, he would back off because he would have no choice. I am sick of the weasels.
Fire sale (a haiku)
Godforsaken times
A reckoning close at hand
Devil buying souls
I agree
That’s a crapload of projection by Agent Orange
trump called Special counsel Jack Smith: Deranged, scum, raging lunatic, thug, corrupt, psycho, sick puppy, a disgrace, lowlife, evil, sinister and delusional. All of that was projection also.
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It does appear the knees were bent not to their audience but to the convicted Felon frump my fear is we lost the Free Speech of MSNBC
Free speech by anyone other than republicans is dead in this country. I live in Florida.
And you have to be very careful what you say in public. I usually speak my mind anyway.Because I am 78 years old and I have earned that privilege. I did that during the moron's first term also. Years ago I had an abusive husband and I never let him stop me from speaking my mind so I've had a lot of practice.
I miss her. NO one is more intelligent than she is. He cannot handle the truth.
Yes. MSNBC lost me after the election. And now they've just abdicated to the most disgusting president we've ever had. I'll never watch them again.
Every single time slot I watch has them focusing on POS and his manifest failures and plans to sink the country and the economy. They are NOT abdicating to him. They're opposing all the time. WATCH instead of parroting POS propaganda. If MSNBC does get sold, we might lose the only national channel that opposes him. And please don't say watch YouTube or stream or anything else. I do NOT do any of those, well, I do watch YouTube, and I venture to guess that the people the media needs to reach don't read substack!
Same.
Yes I do! I think it is despicable! She is wonderful and not afraid to tell the truth about that rapist felon! What kind of country are we turning into that we have to bow and scrape to a FASCIST dictator lover!? Where is our SPINE? Here we have a rapist, felon, cheater sitting in the Oval office I am sure most previous presidents are turning in their graves and Hitler is thrilled! Does anyone ever learn anything from the past? Trump admires Hitler and other terrible thugs like him and people in this country have elected him twice! What disrespect to those who died under the regime of dictators like Hitler, Putin, Stalin and other terrible people, and Americans elected this excuse for a human! I wish I could move away but I am probably too old now, it’s heartbreaking to find that no one learned a damn thing!
Not hard to see after the Morning Joe A$$ kiss. Don’t just nod your head, turn “MSNBC OFF”. Sure as heck not going to miss anything. I canceled YouTube TV and couldn’t be happier. Grow a backbone US.
Then you're playing into POS's hands. Forget Morning Joe - though most of the bits I've seen have been anti-POS. Everybody else is focusing on defeating POS, Skum and their pets.
YES!! I just ditched my iPhone MSNBC app!! 👏👏 The networks are run by traitor billionaires who squeal when Krasnov aka Felon34 doesn’t like truth-tellers and fact-checkers talking to the people he has lied to.
MSNBC fact-checks him all the time. Right, they're talking about the crap that Skum is doing. They have Ds all the time, and anti-Trumpers all the time. Why are people here hiding their heads in the sand that POS and Skum and Johnson are throwing in their faces?
That was absolutely my first thought but now we see it's 100% true.
Just ask Rachel Maddow
It seems likely.
I do.
No doubt about it.
I think Chris Hayes is on the same time as CNN’s Anderson Cooper which may account for Chris’ lower ratings. Anderson is very popular. Chris is smart and passionate while Anderson is smart and very cautious. As for Joy Reid I appreciated her passion and pleasing Trump is the last thing media should be doing.
Chris Hayes is intelligent and I like listening to him and I will follow Joy on Substack where she can be a journalist like many who are out of the mainstream that is all on with the right wing new government of the United States..
It's the most logical explanation. In fact to believe otherwise would be ridiculous. If she wanted to stay, she would have needed to hitch a ride along with Morning Joe to grovel and kiss the ring.