I am disappointed, disheartened and disgusted by the amount of capitulation and frankly the groveling of democratic leadership. They appear to be weak and feckless. It appears they don’t have a spine between most of them. There are some exceptions and some holdouts, but frankly every Democrat should be holding out. No one should give them a single damn inch knowing full well they will take more than a mile.
Yeah, but what a week!!! I'm worried, really worried. All the Republicans unqualified in high places can really mess shit up. What if our enemies in foreign countries take advantage of the weakness in power ? Trump's an embarrassment to our country! Where are we headed?
Jesus..lighten the fuck up This is not Bulgaria We lived thru Herbert Hoover, and Nixon, and Dick Cheney, and Donald Rumsfeld. This is fucking not 1963 when we thought Russia was invading thru Alaska
As Keith Olberman rants (but he's not wrong): Impeachment *works*. No, it has never removed a president BUT the party that brought the impeachment absolutely *thrash* the other in the next election. 13 times in modern era; 14 if you include Andrew Jackson. Every damn time. Dems should file articles of impeachment every damn day - Lord knows Mump has given enough reasons. Tie up the House, imspire the voters, stoke the anger. Another way to throw a monkey wrench in the fascists' plans.
That's something you do when you have majority control of the House. In case you didn't notice, we don't. In this House, such a resolution would never make it out of committee to the floor for a vote.
Impeachment motions are privileged, and have to be heard in the floor. The goal IS NOT to get a successful vote - the goal is the process. As Olberman pointed out, even "failed" impeachment motions were successful... In influencing the next election cycle.
Work like hell to win the special elections for the seats that are open because Felon-47 nominated them for his cabinet and ambassadorships. Use the Executive Orders, which are certain to continue, the MAGA meanness, the MAGA failure to protect our children from school gun violence, the list is endless to change or at least tighten he "majority" in the House. Use the filibuster to keep non-budgetary bills from coming to the floor of the Senate. Show the nation that the MAGA crowd isn't smart enough to run the government. The MAGA folks are fighting amongst themselves, just keep fighting.
I’ve been saying the same thing in my posts. Until we are free of the consultant class, the ossified politicians who listen to them and the wealthy Democrats who run the show, we will be chasing our tails.
Yes! Dems need to fire their consultants, who gave bad advice during the 2024 election cycle (and before, but last year it seems worse because of the results of the election). Sometimes I wonder if those paid political Democratic consultants are really republicans.
If you want to be a leader, you need to lead. AOC and a few others are doing that, so I hope that it catches on with other Dems.
Yes! Dems need to empower talented young House members: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY), Jasmine Crockett (D-TX), Maxwell Frost (D-FL), Greg Casar (D-TX, new Chair of the Congressional Progressive Caucus), Sarah McBride (D-DE) and Yassamin Ansari (D-AZ), to name just a few. They are the wave of the future. Dems must retire the tired old voices who consistently send us back to minority party status (you know who you are!).
AOC is a buffoon. The Democrats can not take their own temperature let alone that of the country. They are dead as a national party unless they move to the middle right, and cut the shit that appeals to a slice of the population. I fucking spent $7 fucking dollars on eggs. and I look at the price of light bulb, paper towels, etc.. Items that once were assumed to be a part of every civilized family household are not exotic special occasion purchases. Waiting for brocoli prices to drop , looking for coupons, hoping for no tooth ache or flat tire. Holy fuck....hope she isn't pregnant again,,, What the fuck do you do if you are 15 years old, and want to go on date? Hey Mom, can I borrow 125 bucks to go to a movie, and have a teeny weeny bag of popcorn, and a cup of melting ice.? 8 dollars for a lb of hamburger. This is hamburger... you know the stuff that they sweep up off the floor, and combine with rat shit, pubic hair, and smoked cigars? Grind that shit up..Nobody will know the difference. Average price for a professional football game is 780 bucks, for the ticket which does not include a miniature beer whiz warm flat beer, and a boiled three day old weiner on soggy bun. The cockroach is on the house. Basic every day Americans do not give a shit about the great verbose redundant blog debates and this that ,, and everything. They are just trying to make it thru the day. Democrats just do not fucking get it.
Agree 1000%. I would also add that the Democratic base—and everyone who should be in the Democratic base who didn’t vote—is fed up with the gerontocracy that has been in DC way too long and is completely out of touch with what Americans want. Aside from Warren and Sanders, the people who are leading the progressive charge are under the age of 65. AOC, Raskin, Swallwelll, Crockett, Gavin Newsom, Gretchen Whitmer, Pritzker, etc. The Clinton Era of centrist, donor-focused politics is over and basically ended in 2008/2009 with the financial crash. We should have listened to the Occupy Wall St. folks—there were right. But instead, Rahm Emmanuel branded them “the professional Left” and Obama cut Elizabeth Warren off at the knees because Wall Street hated her. So now, we have a tech oligarchy in addition to the banking one. Wealth inequality is what gave rise to Trump, only his supporters didn’t know it. They voted for him for the racism and xenophobia alone.
My point is, appealing to Republicans as Republicans was a mistake. It is clear they are going to vote their party, even if their leader is Trump. And racism and xenophobia alone do not explain this; that is too simple. It is sheer party loyalty. The party is lost.
Of course the threat of fascism is real. But the majority of Republicans do not acknowledge this. They embrace it. They have become a fascist party, an AfD. They rejected Nikki Haley. The situation is irreconcilable.
Check out my recent Note on the interview of AOC by Jon Stewart. It talks about exactly this. Specifically, that the party is more beholden to procedure and not to constituents.
Not completely. My daughter’s boyfriend and his family are Latino and voted for Trump — because they’re Republicans. One of Democrats’ and Harris’ mistakes was assuming that Liz Cheney’s position would somehow form a swing vote large enough to win, instead of appealing to the Democratic base.
Well, for me personally, I reject the idea that Cheney was an unforced error. I do believe the threat of fascism was and is real, and it was a gambit worth trying to MAYBE get through to GOP voters that they were walking into a trap. I mean, if Dick fucking Cheney is warning against fascism in America, that’s not an assertion to be taken lightly. That said, it shouldn’t have been the main message, but it was the one that the MSM opted to cover because, you know, anything GOP is fine by them.
Right on the mark! It is time that the Democrats play hard ball. Use the tactics that Mich McConnell used so effectively. Refuse to help the MAGA-GOP raise the debt ceiling and demand that they agree to repealing the tax breaks for the billionaires that the GOP passed during Trump's first administration. That would lower the amount that the debt ceiling would have to be raised. In fact, demand that inheritance taxes and the 50% or higher rate be restored. Remove the special rates for real estate, interest, stocks, bonds, and capital gains. Simply say any income is simply income and all income must be taxed at the same rate.
Democrats need more authoritarian experts (e.g., Ruth Ben-Ghiat, Timothy Snyder) and fewer political consultants to help them navigate the coming slide.
This is absolutely the worst time for the Democrats to roll over and play dead. Trump broke federal laws firing those 12 inspector generals. Shouldn't the Democrats at least introduce an article of Impeachment on the House floor even if the result is futile?
"But if we are 100% against Republicans, they will say mean things about how 'Dems aren't bi-partisan'",
... then those Dems need to be shunned, primaried, and drummed out, because they are just collaborators, no better than the Vichy French in WWII.
Have the Dems learned NOTHING? The ReThugliCON MAGAt cult politicians and think-tanks want to put Dems into the same camps as they are setting up now for everyone else they hate. Get this through your thick jackass skulls, people!
PRIMARIES are ‘for’ progress. PROGRESSIVE DEMOCRATS will not ‘give’ an inch to oligarchy! Any ‘bipartisan compromises’ offered by ‘frightened democrats are capitulations to MAGAville
as ‘contrived’ by the Heritage Foundation. THOSE semi-Democrats ‘need’ to be PRIMARIED!
Print this out and send it every Democratic official with whom you are connected, those who represent you in your voting districts at every level, and those who took up the job of leading nationally, right up to and including Hakeem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer. Send it as an affirmation and thanks to those who are speaking out (Raskin, Swalwell, AOC - and there are others. Look locally too!!) and as a reminder to those who are often quite good but need their spines strengthened (looking at you Tim Kaine, Amy Klobuchar).
Anyone who believes the Democrats have guts and grit are not paying attention. We are in this currernt perilous predicament BECAUSE OF Democrats. No need to regurgitate history. There are only two Dems worth their salt: Raskin and Swalwell. Perhaps "AOC". Democrates are careerist pols. Mostly, they are not of or for the people. They are of and for themselves.
I am so sick of the democratic party and their outrageously paid consultants that have no idea what they are talking about when it comes to the democratic base. Unfortunately, VP Harris listened to these assholes and here we are. The country is not moving to the right and stop the bullshit that it is. My Senator Fetterman is a pathetic joke. He must be primaried. As for the other Senators (Slotkin, Klobachar, etc) you are cowards. We need fighters and go as low as we need to win. ENOUGH!!!!!
I am disappointed, disheartened and disgusted by the amount of capitulation and frankly the groveling of democratic leadership. They appear to be weak and feckless. It appears they don’t have a spine between most of them. There are some exceptions and some holdouts, but frankly every Democrat should be holding out. No one should give them a single damn inch knowing full well they will take more than a mile.
Hold out for what? It has been a fucking week,,,,
How about not voting to confirm the puppy killer when she was going too be confirmed anyway.
In TrumpTime, a week is a year.
Yeah, but what a week!!! I'm worried, really worried. All the Republicans unqualified in high places can really mess shit up. What if our enemies in foreign countries take advantage of the weakness in power ? Trump's an embarrassment to our country! Where are we headed?
Jesus..lighten the fuck up This is not Bulgaria We lived thru Herbert Hoover, and Nixon, and Dick Cheney, and Donald Rumsfeld. This is fucking not 1963 when we thought Russia was invading thru Alaska
Jesus..lighten the fuck up. Really?
Yup
Yup you are a drama queen
As Keith Olberman rants (but he's not wrong): Impeachment *works*. No, it has never removed a president BUT the party that brought the impeachment absolutely *thrash* the other in the next election. 13 times in modern era; 14 if you include Andrew Jackson. Every damn time. Dems should file articles of impeachment every damn day - Lord knows Mump has given enough reasons. Tie up the House, imspire the voters, stoke the anger. Another way to throw a monkey wrench in the fascists' plans.
That's something you do when you have majority control of the House. In case you didn't notice, we don't. In this House, such a resolution would never make it out of committee to the floor for a vote.
Impeachment motions are privileged, and have to be heard in the floor. The goal IS NOT to get a successful vote - the goal is the process. As Olberman pointed out, even "failed" impeachment motions were successful... In influencing the next election cycle.
Work like hell to win the special elections for the seats that are open because Felon-47 nominated them for his cabinet and ambassadorships. Use the Executive Orders, which are certain to continue, the MAGA meanness, the MAGA failure to protect our children from school gun violence, the list is endless to change or at least tighten he "majority" in the House. Use the filibuster to keep non-budgetary bills from coming to the floor of the Senate. Show the nation that the MAGA crowd isn't smart enough to run the government. The MAGA folks are fighting amongst themselves, just keep fighting.
I’ve been saying the same thing in my posts. Until we are free of the consultant class, the ossified politicians who listen to them and the wealthy Democrats who run the show, we will be chasing our tails.
Yes! Dems need to fire their consultants, who gave bad advice during the 2024 election cycle (and before, but last year it seems worse because of the results of the election). Sometimes I wonder if those paid political Democratic consultants are really republicans.
If you want to be a leader, you need to lead. AOC and a few others are doing that, so I hope that it catches on with other Dems.
Yes! Dems need to empower talented young House members: Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez (D-NY), Jasmine Crockett (D-TX), Maxwell Frost (D-FL), Greg Casar (D-TX, new Chair of the Congressional Progressive Caucus), Sarah McBride (D-DE) and Yassamin Ansari (D-AZ), to name just a few. They are the wave of the future. Dems must retire the tired old voices who consistently send us back to minority party status (you know who you are!).
AOC is a buffoon. The Democrats can not take their own temperature let alone that of the country. They are dead as a national party unless they move to the middle right, and cut the shit that appeals to a slice of the population. I fucking spent $7 fucking dollars on eggs. and I look at the price of light bulb, paper towels, etc.. Items that once were assumed to be a part of every civilized family household are not exotic special occasion purchases. Waiting for brocoli prices to drop , looking for coupons, hoping for no tooth ache or flat tire. Holy fuck....hope she isn't pregnant again,,, What the fuck do you do if you are 15 years old, and want to go on date? Hey Mom, can I borrow 125 bucks to go to a movie, and have a teeny weeny bag of popcorn, and a cup of melting ice.? 8 dollars for a lb of hamburger. This is hamburger... you know the stuff that they sweep up off the floor, and combine with rat shit, pubic hair, and smoked cigars? Grind that shit up..Nobody will know the difference. Average price for a professional football game is 780 bucks, for the ticket which does not include a miniature beer whiz warm flat beer, and a boiled three day old weiner on soggy bun. The cockroach is on the house. Basic every day Americans do not give a shit about the great verbose redundant blog debates and this that ,, and everything. They are just trying to make it thru the day. Democrats just do not fucking get it.
Agree 1000%. I would also add that the Democratic base—and everyone who should be in the Democratic base who didn’t vote—is fed up with the gerontocracy that has been in DC way too long and is completely out of touch with what Americans want. Aside from Warren and Sanders, the people who are leading the progressive charge are under the age of 65. AOC, Raskin, Swallwelll, Crockett, Gavin Newsom, Gretchen Whitmer, Pritzker, etc. The Clinton Era of centrist, donor-focused politics is over and basically ended in 2008/2009 with the financial crash. We should have listened to the Occupy Wall St. folks—there were right. But instead, Rahm Emmanuel branded them “the professional Left” and Obama cut Elizabeth Warren off at the knees because Wall Street hated her. So now, we have a tech oligarchy in addition to the banking one. Wealth inequality is what gave rise to Trump, only his supporters didn’t know it. They voted for him for the racism and xenophobia alone.
Well said and I agree totally. I’m particularly glad you said “aside from Warren and Sanders”! I cried when Elizabeth left the race for Pres.
Me too.
Sorry responding to Sabrina Alfin!
My point is, appealing to Republicans as Republicans was a mistake. It is clear they are going to vote their party, even if their leader is Trump. And racism and xenophobia alone do not explain this; that is too simple. It is sheer party loyalty. The party is lost.
Of course the threat of fascism is real. But the majority of Republicans do not acknowledge this. They embrace it. They have become a fascist party, an AfD. They rejected Nikki Haley. The situation is irreconcilable.
Check out my recent Note on the interview of AOC by Jon Stewart. It talks about exactly this. Specifically, that the party is more beholden to procedure and not to constituents.
Not completely. My daughter’s boyfriend and his family are Latino and voted for Trump — because they’re Republicans. One of Democrats’ and Harris’ mistakes was assuming that Liz Cheney’s position would somehow form a swing vote large enough to win, instead of appealing to the Democratic base.
Well, for me personally, I reject the idea that Cheney was an unforced error. I do believe the threat of fascism was and is real, and it was a gambit worth trying to MAYBE get through to GOP voters that they were walking into a trap. I mean, if Dick fucking Cheney is warning against fascism in America, that’s not an assertion to be taken lightly. That said, it shouldn’t have been the main message, but it was the one that the MSM opted to cover because, you know, anything GOP is fine by them.
Right on the mark! It is time that the Democrats play hard ball. Use the tactics that Mich McConnell used so effectively. Refuse to help the MAGA-GOP raise the debt ceiling and demand that they agree to repealing the tax breaks for the billionaires that the GOP passed during Trump's first administration. That would lower the amount that the debt ceiling would have to be raised. In fact, demand that inheritance taxes and the 50% or higher rate be restored. Remove the special rates for real estate, interest, stocks, bonds, and capital gains. Simply say any income is simply income and all income must be taxed at the same rate.
Dems need to take the Gloves OFF and fight like hell for OUR DEMOCRACY because our democracy depends upon it!!! Fight RFN!!!
Democrats need more authoritarian experts (e.g., Ruth Ben-Ghiat, Timothy Snyder) and fewer political consultants to help them navigate the coming slide.
This is absolutely the worst time for the Democrats to roll over and play dead. Trump broke federal laws firing those 12 inspector generals. Shouldn't the Democrats at least introduce an article of Impeachment on the House floor even if the result is futile?
ANY Democratic politician who says,
"But if we are 100% against Republicans, they will say mean things about how 'Dems aren't bi-partisan'",
... then those Dems need to be shunned, primaried, and drummed out, because they are just collaborators, no better than the Vichy French in WWII.
Have the Dems learned NOTHING? The ReThugliCON MAGAt cult politicians and think-tanks want to put Dems into the same camps as they are setting up now for everyone else they hate. Get this through your thick jackass skulls, people!
PRIMARIES are ‘for’ progress. PROGRESSIVE DEMOCRATS will not ‘give’ an inch to oligarchy! Any ‘bipartisan compromises’ offered by ‘frightened democrats are capitulations to MAGAville
as ‘contrived’ by the Heritage Foundation. THOSE semi-Democrats ‘need’ to be PRIMARIED!
Print this out and send it every Democratic official with whom you are connected, those who represent you in your voting districts at every level, and those who took up the job of leading nationally, right up to and including Hakeem Jeffries and Chuck Schumer. Send it as an affirmation and thanks to those who are speaking out (Raskin, Swalwell, AOC - and there are others. Look locally too!!) and as a reminder to those who are often quite good but need their spines strengthened (looking at you Tim Kaine, Amy Klobuchar).
Silence = complicity
Anyone who believes the Democrats have guts and grit are not paying attention. We are in this currernt perilous predicament BECAUSE OF Democrats. No need to regurgitate history. There are only two Dems worth their salt: Raskin and Swalwell. Perhaps "AOC". Democrates are careerist pols. Mostly, they are not of or for the people. They are of and for themselves.
I don’t think it very help full to blame the Démocrats for every ill that happened It only reinforces Trump ‘s delusions
Truth
I am so sick of the democratic party and their outrageously paid consultants that have no idea what they are talking about when it comes to the democratic base. Unfortunately, VP Harris listened to these assholes and here we are. The country is not moving to the right and stop the bullshit that it is. My Senator Fetterman is a pathetic joke. He must be primaried. As for the other Senators (Slotkin, Klobachar, etc) you are cowards. We need fighters and go as low as we need to win. ENOUGH!!!!!