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Angryface They/Them's avatar

All swing states need to investigate.

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Greg Lang's avatar

Because there is no way he won all several battleground states

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Angryface They/Them's avatar

Absolutely no way. I DO remember reading on Instagram about people saying they voted and were finding out that their votes weren't counted in Pennsylvania.

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Punkette's avatar

тАж and by margins just high enough to avoid an automatic recount.

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Michele Wood's avatar

That was my first thought too!

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Lux's avatar

Nope, none, no way he won the PV either, even by the "small margin" people are using to assuage that little voice in their heads that KNOWS it's not possible, but is afraid to "sound like him" by questioning some CLEARLY erroneous election results. But that little voice is correct, there is simply, no, fuckin, way, not in ANY universe....

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Jessica Marcillo's avatar

So if we actually have the data to prove it instead of the lies the criminal gang 45 had then what? It's statistically so absurd the way he won and by that bit he did. Then by the things we tell ourselves.- "We do not want to be trumper lunatics and go off on that tangent (etc)" I seriously get it. So I don't know what to do other than maybe just start with the 1st state? Hopefully we can complete it and not have everyone's get rounded up by Kash Patel and Pam bondi who will shut it down and send everyone helping to prison with no trial but I may be a bit paranoid about that. I think I would still help. Im in Wisconsin, Madison area, willing to do that work, know others would too. Its worth trying. ЁЯШм

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Angryface They/Them's avatar

I feel like they're gonna round me up for being myself eventually ЁЯЩГ so

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Jessica Marcillo's avatar

Omg ЁЯдгЁЯджЁЯП╗тАНтЩАя╕П

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Angryface They/Them's avatar

https://youtu.be/QgLEC3JdQWs?feature=shared brownshirts in action. Where did they take them? The "State department" says they were "federal agents".

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Lux's avatar

I fully expect more of this type of shit to be happening. But then, I am FAR more cynical than most, everyone seems to have forgotten those unmarked vehicles, and plain clothed thugs with no indentification during the George Floyd protests, *I* have not. I have been saying it til I'm blue in the goddamned face, most Americans are way, WAY too "comfortable", thus, complacent and apathetic. They truly believe, on some level, even the ones who should know better believe "implicitly", that "it can't happen here", they have too much faith in the first and second amedments, ergo, they give no thought to the FOURTH amendment.

Rump don't give a fuck about the constitution, which means bye bye habeas corpus, "but but but, we have rights!" they'll say, to which I can only smhs, and ask, do you? What's to stop you from being "detained", for nothing at all, and not being given a phone call? Witnessing for example, Elmo doing what he is, as we speak, how sure of those "rights" are you? Wanna bet your life on em? These fuckers are just doing whatever they please, and there is VERY little pushback, people actually got USED to the FIRST round, if they get "used to it" THIS time, all is lost, and we are truly fucked. Lambs to the slaughter we are, things need to get, um, "different", and remember, big brother is watching.....

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Angryface They/Them's avatar

We need to get a giant bag of rubbery dildos and bop them on the head. Everyone gets a turn.

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Ema's avatar

I agree - all swing states should investigate. All swing states should have had a forensic audit to detect fraud. I wish someone - anyone - could tell me why this never happened!

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Grace's avatar

Trumps margin in the swings states won "perfectly" just over the percentage to trigger automatic recounts. Many states do not allow recounts at all, and some require several million dollars to be paid to cover costs. The cost is astronomical. However, I feel like they should have chosen one state (particularly Pennsylvania) and I just do not understand why they didn't. (We would have raised the money for Harris, easily) Perhaps the investigation will uncover some truth (one partial recount already has uncovered a "tabulator error" that was flipping votes to Trump)

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Kimmie 2025's avatar

I read a story that the swing state results did raise suspicion how they were all, as you say, "perfectly" over the percentage that would have triggered automatic recounts. Many were encouraging Harris to contest that, but she declined.

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Annette Tchelka's avatar

Big mistake on Harris' part. Al Gore sadly rolled over after the Washington Post and NYTimes finished the 2000 recount and found he had actually won. I for one am tired of the GOP committing every crime on the books and getting away with it. Now we have Trump/Musk etc. ass-kissing Putin as a result. When Musk first took over Twitter, I asked him why he was poll-parroting Putin's talking points, and he immediately blocked me. So much for free speech on Twitter.

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Kimmie 2025's avatar

Free speech is totally welcomed on Twitter -- as long as Musk agrees with it! ЁЯдФ

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Angryface They/Them's avatar

Did that just happen?

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Lux's avatar

In a word? "Conditioning", it works in "reverse fashion" as well, think of a person with a blindfold on, being told a thing is hot, and then being given an ice cube....

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Elena's avatar

Probably because the suggestions came from Trump, he's the one that thanked Elon for helping with the machines in PA. While believing anything that Orange menace says is generally not a good idea, he is also the master of projection. He often says other people did something when in fact it's something he did. With his mental decline he also seems to be saying the quiet part out loud more. So while I don't have any hope that election fraud will be found, I think it's reasonable to want to investigate tRump's claim.

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Grace's avatar

It actually started from a Duty to Warn on November 9th from a cyber data analyst. (This person is a life-long Republican that data analyzes every election) There are disturbing anomalies in the data. Since then, many groups have taken public record and found the same concerning data. You can add Trumps "saying the quite things outloud" problem before and after the election, then the 221 bomb threats, many on Nov 9th when tabulators were counting votes, then the fact that Trump staged the 2020 insurrection and "stop the steal" crap, which has obviously been an effective psychological weapon used against a bunch of Trump "rigged election" weary Democrats so they would wholesale dismiss any mention of rigged elections in 2024...there's a pattern, there are all sorts of proof of voter suppression and impossible data anomalies...add it all together and dark recipe of voter manipulation emerges on a massive, candidate flipping scale.

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Lux's avatar

I dunno, I'm personally quite certain if will be found, it's just too late to do anything about it. A deep forensic audit by the software engineers who built it, and are familiar with the original code of those machines, especially the ones whose password ended up on a tee shirt, seems as though it would be very likely to turn up something. Dumpy lies like a rug, but he also can't keep a secret, so if he's saying Elmo "helped him with the machines", it's a safe bet he did. He just conditioned everybody to -defend- those machines' integrity, precisely so they would look silly if they questioned them now. He ain't an intellectual, but he's good at manipulating shit to get the result he wants.

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Grace's avatar

I don't know if anyone knows what would happen if the smoking gun was actually found here. It's uncharted territory. It would essentially make his whole Presidency illegitimate. How they would go about it is beyond my scope...but if it's proven beyond a shadow of a doubt, they will need to create a recourse of epic proportions!

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Common sense's avatar

Just watch this. Data doesnтАЩt lie. And hopefully each state will review the results.

https://youtu.be/3l8vWfaFVMU

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janice's avatar

If it sounds like him that may be because it was him; it was his own comments about Musk and vote-counting machines in Pennsylvania that raised the issue.

https://www.newsweek.com/donald-trump-elon-musk-voting-machine-2017657

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john collier's avatar

Don't worry trumps DOJ will get right on that...... so sad:(

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Grace's avatar

This shouldn't need to get the DOJ involved. Just like Trumps massive recounts in 2020, the Feds weren't involved. States run their own independent elections, so it would be up to Pennsylvania's Secretary of State, I am assuming.

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Common sense's avatar

And this is where Fetterman should be advocating and making up for his cowardice thus far. LetтАЩs go Pennsylvanians. Demand the recount. This isnтАЩt a тАЬwhat ifтАЭ they cheated. It happened and always remember, тАЬdata is greater than opinionтАЭ. This advocacy group has been reviewing the data in all swing states and itтАЩs clear there are very big discrepancies.

https://youtu.be/3l8vWfaFVMU

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Eva Kyle's avatar

Fetterman is a paid ZionistтАжhence he will listen to his wallet. He doesnтАЩt care about Pennsylvanians heтАЩs a corrupt coward and natural courses may be stronger next time, payback is a bitch

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Jessica Marcillo's avatar

Exactly, remember that weird computer sounding group who found more votes for Biden in Arizona?

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Grace's avatar

Yes, like the CyberNinjas or something? I followed the recounts in 2020 very closely. (I was an official election worker back then) Every.single.recount found more votes for Biden! Crazy part, these data anomalies have been happening since 2008! (When Obama was running for the first time.) And no one will give anyone screaming this from the rooftops a second look. This time, however, the anomalies are so agregious, the math says that it could have easily flipped the vote! (Trump got greedy, suprise suprise!) But they are still dismissing it! Smart Elections work with Election Truth Alliance. They published this the other day: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AaKFx5rxdmA

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serghiy's avatar

тАжyouтАЩre absolutely right, but тАЬsadтАЭ is when your cat dies, not when your country goes NAZI

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serghiy's avatar

тАжwho exactly will do the investigation ?

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WTH Is Going On?! Chris Berrie's avatar

https://smartelections.us/

FYI, this group, along with Democracy Forward, are still deeply into calling out 2024 election fraud by Trump & Co.

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Michele Dezbor's avatar

Trump did not win the 2024 election without the help of Musk. Now that has to be proven.

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Grace's avatar

They are just one of many, if not hundreds, looking into the agregious data anomalies in 2024. Your choice of words does not reflect the message they are sending. I've read through it all myself.

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nothappynow's avatar

Me too there's no way he won all swing states. Only once before this happened ....Washington and Jefferson! This is cheating to the highest degree! Musk did something w the algorithms and I think voting system. Nothing is totally secure. Musk is a skunk that smells evil

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